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Old 16-05-2018, 10:43   #61
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Re: Rigging and Sails

Thank you Terbonium.

Some thoughts :

1 - I am very surprized about the way Fountaine-Pajot is very strict on the options they propose... If that main sail hook option solved some problem, do they realized that it create others ?

2 - about Dynema : I am a old style sailor sticking on proven things and ways to manage a sailboat, and I am reluctant on "Dynema everywhere". OK on the genoa sheet point (sorry I am French speaking) to reduce the weight and the impact when tacking, BUT for the main halyard hook... HUM !

So you confirm that a hard shackle is doing a better job ?
For sure I will change it at commisionning.


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I fitted the Gaff lock to my Lipari. Lessons learn

The factory halyard seems to be 11 or 12mm poly double braid. Problem is itís just a little too thick for the Gaff lock, so I changed it to 10mm spectra. Much stronger, less stretch and runs smoother, and it doesnít seem to squash like the standard double braid.

The soft shackle needs to be stiff and slippery. I had one made by Wet tech rigging in Sydney and itís been perfect.

Although the shackle should work the concern I would have is over time the stainless shackle will damage the aluminium of the Gaff hook. These thinks are not cheap. The soft shackle is softer than the aluminium so any damage should be to the shackle not the hook, and the soft shackle is cheaper.

I also installed a shock cord ďdownhaulĒ between the hook And the first batten car. This helps the shackle snap into place as you raise the sail. This is also used to stop the car just going up the mast if you unhook the soft shackle or forget to open the sail bag and try and raise the sail. Sounds silly but donít ask how I know this can happen.
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What is the price of these? The only thing I saw online is 900 some odd euro for the sis 40? Maybe that includes the cars?

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What is the price of these? The only thing I saw online is 900 some odd euro for the sis 40? Maybe that includes the cars?

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We purchased ours in Australia, and it cost around $1000 AUD but this was just the hook but was a exact fit to the existing cars on our Lipari.
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We purchased ours in Australia, and it cost around $1000 AUD but this was just the hook but was a exact fit to the existing cars on our Lipari.

So, even if this is a very nice design the price is a bit high.


OK the quantity produced will be quite small and paying the mold (maybe 15,000$) with that quantity is difficult.


I have a MARKFORGED 3D printer in my office, quite idle now, and even if I did not tried fiber carbon yet ... for sure the fiber carbon printed hook should be more resistant than the aluminium one. Just don't know how it will resist to UV.


The other direction would be direct aluminum printing !
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So, even if this is a very nice design the price is a bit high.


OK the quantity produced will be quite small and paying the mold (maybe 15,000$) with that quantity is difficult.


I have a MARKFORGED 3D printer in my office, quite idle now, and even if I did not tried fiber carbon yet ... for sure the fiber carbon printed hook should be more resistant than the aluminium one. Just don't know how it will resist to UV.


The other direction would be direct aluminum printing !

I agree they are expensive, but they do work well.

Hey when I get back to OZ in July Iím happy to send you the plans they sent me.
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