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Old 22-10-2013, 04:01   #16
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Re: Rig and Sails

Forgot the other end
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Re: Rig and Sails

Same functions, different form. Looks a bit neater than the old fittings and extrusion.
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Has anyone fitted line jammers for the headsail lines? Photo's?

I am interested in where you would put them. I have changed out the 2 single jammers used by the main and replaced with a double for the 2 main lines and a triple that allows me to run all the reefing lines back to the helm (Single line reef only on first at this stage).

Just looking for a way around having to leave the headsail lines on the winch.
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Has anyone fitted line jammers for the headsail lines? Photo's?

I am interested in where you would put them. I have changed out the 2 single jammers used by the main and replaced with a double for the 2 main lines and a triple that allows me to run all the reefing lines back to the helm (Single line reef only on first at this stage).

Just looking for a way around having to leave the headsail lines on the winch.
I put a single jammer for the port jib sheet in the gutter recess that the sheet runs in and positioned it about 0.7m from the helm at a guess (might have random photo that shows it). Only ever use it when sail furled and doesn't interfere with normal operation of sheet which can still run to any of the winnches. Stbd sheet I still wrap round the winch but would like to do something else. I wouldn't use that sort of jammer For Stbd though - maybe something more like a dinghy style cam cleat that is out of the normal route of the jib sheet to the winch.
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Old 13-03-2014, 22:18   #20
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Has anyone fitted line jammers for the headsail lines? Photo's?

I am interested in where you would put them. I have changed out the 2 single jammers used by the main and replaced with a double for the 2 main lines and a triple that allows me to run all the reefing lines back to the helm (Single line reef only on first at this stage).

Just looking for a way around having to leave the headsail lines on the winch.
One other problem I have that may have been solved by the changes to Lipari Evolution boom set up, the reefing lines tend to jam on each other at the blocks that they run through below mast end of boom. Have thought of replacing the individual block set up with triple blocks. ( I have taken 3 reef lines, main outhaul, main and gennaker halyards all back to the helm). Have u had any problems?
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Old 13-03-2014, 22:34   #21
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Re: Rig and Sails

No real problems other than the total amount of rope to deal with at the helm, however so far have not needed anything other than first reef. As the first reef is set up as Jiffy reef the line runs slightly differently to the others. The jiffy reef set up works well but is easier when I marked the reef line to make it easier to know how far to pull it.

First reef is drop the main halyard to past the 1st reef mark (marked on the halyard where it exits the jammer), winch in first reef line to mark at jammer and apply jammer. Winch in main halyard to approximate mark and adjust tension. Quick and easy from the helm, reverse even easier.

Yes the marks will move over time with stretch but I will just re-mark them as needed. Probably if on passage and expecting to stay reefed for an extended period I think I would still go to the mast and install the webbing strap just for safety but I currently have to do that for reef 2 and 3 anyway. I think the photos I put up in the general area about the new tent probably show it.
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Old 13-03-2014, 22:42   #22
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BTW on the main reef point FP have changed from using blocks attached to the sail on the rear reef points to low friction rings attached via dyneema soft shackles.
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BTW on the main reef point FP have changed from using blocks attached to the sail on the rear reef points to low friction rings attached via dyneema soft shackles.
That's a good idea. I have already disintregated one block ( might have been a little operator error involved). Can u post photo of new set up when u get a mo plz.
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I will take close up and post tomorrow
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I have the same Jiffy Reef system that I added myself with blocks at the reef points
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Re: Rig and Sails

I started by using blocks like you did. FP now supply these low friction rings on the tailing edge reef point as standard and I do like that they are lighter and dont flap around so much. I swapped the block I had on the leach edge and think it works better as it is smaller and doesn't seem flap around or get caught on the mast track as the block did. I suspect that although they are low friction rings the blocks are probably lower but the use of a dyneema soft shackle makes it a neater solution.

Works basically the same so still good.
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Any idea what type of line (and diameter) they have used for tying them on. Found what looks like them at Whitworths (but made by Harken not the German brand you have) and they are only $20 each so would like to do the same. Pity I had to replace 1 block at vast expense (due to minor explosion into components).
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Re: Rig and Sails

Has anyone come up with an alternative solution for the main sheet traveller lines? When loaded I need to use a winch to move it up the track but usually am short of winches. Seawind use a very neat (but expensive) mini ratchet winch but love to hear if anyone else has come up with a good solution.

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Re: Rig and Sails

Mine is moving fine, but is was rigged wrong when I got it. I installed a fully swiveling set of blocks on the traveler. It seemed my first set were not putting the force at the middle of the traveller but toward the leeward side that the stopped it from traveling well.
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