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Old 12-11-2012, 06:54   #241
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Re: Rig and Sails

Here is all the Mahe 36 sail measurements that you will need from FP.

See attached pdf.
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Old 12-11-2012, 08:42   #242
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Re: Rig and Sails

I would recommend a hydranet radial sail. More expensive but keeps its shape much longer than dacron. Hydranet is a woven sail, made of a dacron/dyneema mix; it does not haven the disadvantages of laminate sails like sensitivity for moulds, shorter life and so.
Furthermore I'd strongly recommend a 3rd reef. I feel that above about 23 knots TWA close-hauled you need a 3rd reef. Reefing lines can be accomodated by adding extra blocks at the foot and collar of the mast. I added 2 double clutches left and right of the original clutches on the coachroof, to accomodate 3 reefing lines and the outhaul.
A square top sail has advantages (more push at light winds, 10% extra boat speed) but you have to reef earlier; raising the sail is a bit more cumbersome due to the battens hooking behond the lazy jacks; and the danger of an accidental gybe due to wave action on the head of the sail is larger. So a gybe preventer is necessary in more cases.
And take care that the reefing eyes at the mast are large enough to let the reefing straps go through. Incidences uses too small eyes at the mast side of the mainsail.
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Old 13-11-2012, 19:22   #243
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Re: Rig and Sails

Thanks Mark for the sail plan and Jef&Marlin for the recommendations! I think I will try to install the reefing system that Mark shared earlier in the thread rather than adding a third reef.
I found Doyle Sails in Hongkong and they seem to be very helpful and professional, and what I read about Doyle sails in general is that they seem to be of good quality. I was recommended to use Taffeta Laminate rather than Dacron, did not get a quote for Hydranet. any opinion?
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Old 13-11-2012, 20:38   #244
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Re: Rig and Sails

Putting aside price, the issues re performance and longevity.

I suspect they are actually in the opposite order.

Doyle has good quality but there have been some not so good reports on longevity in other forums. Don't know about their Hong Kong loft
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Old 14-11-2012, 04:15   #245
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Re: Rig and Sails

You may want to consider just ordering the original FP Mahe 36 (Incidences)sails.
If your boat was not in charter the original sails would still be in very nice shape.

My sails are four years old right now and they still look and feel new.
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Re: Parasailor for Mahe

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Mahe's

I see the Mahe in the demo video with a Parasailor.
http://www.istec.ag/us/products/easysnuffer.html
Play the video on the middle right of this link.

Two sails in one! The Parasailor works from 70 to 180 apparent wind angle (AWA), that is, its covers the domains of both symmetric and asymmetric spinnakers taken together.

Looks like a nice sail to use shorthanded with autopilot.

Who has this sail? Can you tell us if its worth the money?

Mark
There is someone advertising one for sale here in Australia on eBay think about $2600 AUD supposedly near new
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Old 28-02-2013, 04:14   #247
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$2600 AUD is a very good price for that Parasailor if it is in good shape.
A new one goes for $5126 AUD

I would love to have a Parasailor, but the $5266 usd is a bit much for me, considering how much I would use it.
A few Mahes in Florida have them and do love them.
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Here is the link to the sail. Didnt go on ebay but still listed on Gumtree at $3400 AUD can make an offer. Too early for me boat isn't here till later this year and the boss would shoot me if I ought a sail now

Parasailor 100 sqm | Boat Accessories & Parts | Gumtree Australia Queensland - Brisbane Region
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Old 02-03-2013, 11:18   #249
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Re: Rig and Sails

The survey of my boat says this about the side stays: "The toggles at deck level are not centered in the fittings. Spacers should be provided (stainless steel or plastic washers) to locate the pins in the center of the toggles."

Anybody else have such spacers as described? We're on target for bringing ours from Tortola to NH (via Bermuda) May 7th!
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The survey of my boat says this about the side stays: "The toggles at deck level are not centered in the fittings. Spacers should be provided (stainless steel or plastic washers) to locate the pins in the center of the toggles."

Anybody else have such spacers as described? We're on target for bringing ours from Tortola to NH (via Bermuda) May 7th!
Leave it that way. No worries.
Add spacers to center them if your looking to kill some time
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Mahe Reefing Chart

Mahe's,

Mounted the new laser engraved Mahe Reefing Chart below the helm.
It measures 5" wide x 7" inch tall. Used 3M double face tape to mount it.
I have it mounted under the helm, so it is always at the ready.
Have attached a copy for your use.

Had Loria Awards laser cut it for me.
www.loriaawards.com
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Mounted the new laser engraved Mahe Reefing Chart below the helm.
It measures 5" wide x 7" inch tall. Used 3M double face tape to mount it.
I have it mounted under the helm, so it is always at the ready.
Much better than my laminated version (but probably cost more). I have always assumed that the reduction refers to % of sail area and was thinking of marking the furler reefing line so can quickly tell what % I have reduced. If I wanted to be technical how do i calculate the reduced % of the sail triangle given that the first few turns result in a much larger % reduction than later turns?
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Re: Rig and Sails

A better way to judge how much Jib sail you have out is to count the 4 reefing points on the sail.
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A better way to judge how much Jib sail you have out is to count the reefing points on the sail. Their are four reefing points and you could add 2 more to make the 1/5th and 1/6th reef points.
So that is what those dots are for!! What % do the 4 dots on there represent?
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Re: Rig and Sails

Regarding the reefing instructions; have you noticed that when beating or close reaching in 24 - 30 kts the verbiage says .... mainsail 1 reef and jib 1/3rd yet the corresponding diagram actually shows the main with a 2nd reef. I wonder which one is correct?

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