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Old 05-05-2016, 17:57   #121
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"Ripped off" is an emotive word. Being on the other side of the world to the factory means the boat has to be delivered by Ship or sailed half way across the world. On top of this you have 10% GST and 5% duty which are government mandated charges.

The uplift is typically 20% or so for any boat, new or second hand.

Further, One Giant Leap, which sits right next to my boat at Mooloolaba is significantly upspecced compared to the boats you reference.
No offence intended. I was just surprised. I stand corrected: 1/5 not 1/3. Ahe only thing you can do against taxes is
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Old 05-05-2016, 18:33   #122
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Further, One Giant Leap, which sits right next to my boat at Mooloolaba is significantly upspecced compared to the boats you reference.
However if you look at the listings of new Helia 44's in the above link 1 Giant Leap must have been hell of upspecct. The price for a new one (standard configuration) is ~700.000 plus 20% for Australia is 840.000. Around 200.000 of improvements.

Btw. I did some more research into this particular boat. It's listed as 2013 but she was called Curiosity and toured some boatshows in 2012 before she was renamed 1 Giant Leap. How can that count as 2013? She had 2 owners in 4 years.
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Yes, at least $200K in improvements - probably more. My boat has A$250K in improvements for instance. The base boat price you quote requires considerable upgrades to bring to cruising spec.

As an example boat supplied in the last month out of La Rochelle was A$850k. This was pretty specced up but not to that degree of 1GL. It was sailed out of La Rochelle, but if shipped to Australia this boat would run $1.1 million.

This is not to say that 1GL is priced correctly. I suspect it will sell somewhat under the asking price. However, it is always difficult to compare prices of different boats due to geographic location and specification, and then you have to form a view on applicable depreciation.
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In answer to the year model thing our lipari was built in July 2013 but Fountaine go July to July for year model so ours is based on the HIN a 2014 model


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In answer to the year model thing our lipari was built in July 2013 but Fountaine go July to July for year model so ours is based on the HIN a 2014 model


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According to Tim's posting here in this forum in 2012 1GL was build in late 2012 and presented at the Düsseldorf Boatshow in Jan 2013 with the name Couriosity. I guess therefore the serial number will reveal a 2012 boat.

But I guess you are right. It is by all means a 2013 boat as she was not commissioned before mid 2013

I was looking for Helia 44, Lagoon 450, Leopard 48 or Lagoon 52. I sailed the 450 and the Leopard and was on board of the Helia and a Flybridge 52. I did not like the flybridge but I like the new 52 Sportop. I hope I'll get chance to look at one soon. Right now let me dream of the bigger boat
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