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Scott730 · 19-08-2008, 11:05

JC
You lucked out and I'm in for it. The new track takes the storm right over my marina. We have the boat secured with a similar "spider webbing" on lines and extra fenders, now we just have to wait and pray.

Scott

jean1146 · 19-08-2008, 12:21

Scott.
Yeah I know it is heading your way though I don't think you will get over 50MPH. this is a weird storm,we are not yet out of the woods.could go anywhere.
Well good luck to you.
Keep us inform.JC.

freetime · 19-08-2008, 14:55

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Originally Posted by Scott730

JC
You lucked out and I'm in for it. The new track takes the storm right over my marina. We have the boat secured with a similar "spider webbing" on lines and extra fenders, now we just have to wait and pray.

Scott

What marina is it, are you safe for waves or do you have both waves and winds? What kind of mooring do you have. I don´t understand the spider webbing?

Scott730 · 19-08-2008, 15:27

We are not at a mooring but in a slip at Cocoa Village Marina. Go to cocoavillagemarina.com, then go to cameras, and if you have activeX loaded on your PC you can see the marina in realtime. We have concrete barriers around the basin so the wave action is cut down by a large amount. Since we are in a slip with pilings we tie the boat to the pilings and cleats on the boat, when it is done it looks like a spiderweb going around your boat. I've doubled up on the lines and removed all sails amoung other things.
I hope to go to the boat tomorrow if we can get into the area, a lot of flooding and wind damage so far.

LarryW · 19-08-2008, 15:53

Hi all

I think we are done with the most of it. I saw KOKOMO twice today, and she was riding just fine, see attached picture.

Larry

jean1146 · 20-08-2008, 04:25

Scott it must have blown pretty good where you are.I left the sails on,I just made sure they were secured well. Those are nice pictures of Kokomo Larry. Good luck to everyone.
JC.

Jef & Marin, Netherlands · 25-08-2008, 07:46

We also experienced serious squeaking. It comes and goes. In our case it was mainly due to wood from the kitchen touching and rubbing the inner fibreglass shell, immediately at the rear end of the top of the starboard stairs. On the port side there is also a squeak, but we still have to localize that one; it is less annoying.
The one on starboard was really maddening, even the smallest movement of the ship caused a serious squeak caused by stick-slip from rubbing. We have solved it temporarily by working a piece of baking paper (folded to be e.g. 8- or 16-fold) between the kitchen's wood and the inner shell. Problem is this paper wears through, and you have to replace the baking paper now and then.
One reason for the squeaking occurring is, in our case: The whole kitchen / starboard hut woodenassembly is glued to the hull with big blobs of Sikaflex-like stuff; a white marine kit/glue. And this glue does not held well to the plastic surface of the wooden kitchen panels; I have already seen a number of spots where this kit has come loose.
This means that the kitchen can move around more than originally, meaning that the level of squeaking changes.
From a heavy sea the squeaking can change, due to the whole kitchen block shifting position slightly, is my impression.

I have infomed the dealer about this; I hope to get a reaction from him how he proposes to solve this. He might inform or ask Fountaine Pajot.

Regards
Jef
Mahe 88 "Miss Poes"

Jef & Marin, Netherlands · 25-08-2008, 07:50

We have our boat now since the end of May, sailing since then. Done around 1800 miles since then. Tomorrow we cross from Lowestoft (UK) to the Netherlands, around 100 miles.
The weather has been unusually bad here. Lots of wind, lots of rain.

I am very happy with the sailing performance of the Mahe.
A tip: when you sail in butterfly, straight downwind, take the jib sheet out as far as possible. We guide it under the center cleat. The jib will fly stably then. We will mount blocks in the vicinity of the center cleat, and get a third jib sheet (now we use the one from the side which is unused).
On the starboard side you can bring the 3rd jib sheet to the starboard winch; on the port side we use the block and winch from the spifurl.
Regards,
Jef

pguillemin · 25-08-2008, 11:58

Hello Jef

You got the problem spot on.We had the issue on some boats and fixed it by adding a layer of caulking to the jonction of the wood and fiberglass.
It has cured the problem ...so far

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Originally Posted by Jef & Marin, Netherlands

We also experienced serious squeaking. It comes and goes. In our case it was mainly due to wood from the kitchen touching and rubbing the inner fibreglass shell, immediately at the rear end of the top of the starboard stairs. On the port side there is also a squeak, but we still have to localize that one; it is less annoying.
The one on starboard was really maddening, even the smallest movement of the ship caused a serious squeak caused by stick-slip from rubbing. We have solved it temporarily by working a piece of baking paper (folded to be e.g. 8- or 16-fold) between the kitchen's wood and the inner shell. Problem is this paper wears through, and you have to replace the baking paper now and then.
One reason for the squeaking occurring is, in our case: The whole kitchen / starboard hut woodenassembly is glued to the hull with big blobs of Sikaflex-like stuff; a white marine kit/glue. And this glue does not held well to the plastic surface of the wooden kitchen panels; I have already seen a number of spots where this kit has come loose.
This means that the kitchen can move around more than originally, meaning that the level of squeaking changes.
From a heavy sea the squeaking can change, due to the whole kitchen block shifting position slightly, is my impression.

I have infomed the dealer about this; I hope to get a reaction from him how he proposes to solve this. He might inform or ask Fountaine Pajot.

Regards
Jef
Mahe 88 "Miss Poes"

**Therapy** · 26-08-2008, 09:00

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Originally Posted by pguillemin

Hello Jef

You got the problem spot on.We had the issue on some boats and fixed it by adding a layer of caulking to the jonction of the wood and fiberglass.
It has cured the problem ...so far

What about a srip of UHMW Poly.

pguillemin · 26-08-2008, 11:58

Do not know
The sealant/caulking work well but I am sure that there is some other solution
On a couple of boats we also shaved a thin layer of wood and noise went away

IrieCat · 27-08-2008, 06:29

It appeared that the gap between the wood and fiberglass was too small for even a piece of paper. I used a drop or two of veg. oil that worked for a while but I need to reaply. Could the caulk work for me?

ireaney · 27-08-2008, 07:54

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Originally Posted by pguillemin

Alan

I am commenting indeed
I do not know of the 4 decks redone on Lavezzi but I will check.We sold boat number 191 in October so I do not think that there is any STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS in the building process
For the rest I have answered some of the questions
Leaks :It happened on 2 of our Mahe so far and it was due to a badly followed process at the factory ( wating too long for instalation )
Easy fix

Creaking: overtensionning of the rig will pull the hull or chainplates up and will create chafe and grinding ( overloaded boat is easy to check as doors do not close easily )Also I do not think that SS cables streched .

Also you should sail a Mahe before commenting on the problems in a so doctoral manner

From what you are saying now and so many others have also said, it appears that the creaking problem has nothing to do with the rig but the way they are put together ie not fixing the inner modules which now means they have to be removed to be sanded down so that in theory they float around as they are not fixed, to me this could cause problems later on and is also meaning that the quality of the building them is not as good as they were when the Tobago, Athena and Venezia were around.

Also you state that you know of no problems with the Lavezzi's, regarding delaminating and Osmosis, in the yachtworld.com site there are 2 that are offering extra hull warranties and these boats are 4 and 5 years old which have had to have full osmosis treatment ie read this Fountaine-Pajot Lavezzi court case - osmosis

and this one a 2003 boat offering 3 year new warranty

2002 Fountaine Pajot Lavezzi 40 Maestro Boat For Sale

I would welcome your comments on this when you have spoken direct with Fountaine Pajot, as I am led to believe that there were still problems up until the end of 2004.

leong_hun · 30-08-2008, 19:34

Hi

I read the blog with much interest as i have the same interest in Mahe. However I live in Singapore and we do not have any agents there. so pl let me know the reliable agent which you have ppurchase the mahe from and his contact

Gordon · 31-08-2008, 01:35

Hi leong your nearest agent would be Peter Cohen of EC Marine. Ph.+61(0)754525164. They are based in Moolooloba Qld Australia. Also visit their web site at www.fountainepajot.com.au