General Info: Lucia 40

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Here is some pricing details for the new Lucia 40

See both attachments for price and options

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ml#post1968690

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ml#post1968692

http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/...ml#post1968695

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FP Lucia 40 pictures of hull#1 at Paris boat show

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FP Lucia 40 pictures of hull#1 at Paris boat show

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More Lucia 40 pictures

[travellerw]

You know you are officially a boat owner when you look at these pics and can visualize what it will look like in 10 years.

Sure looks purdy now though!

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[Boatguy30]

Maybe it's just me, but the keels and rudders look really tiny. Almost like afterthoughts.

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Here is a nice video walk through of a FP Lucia 40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OIsazgkUIY

[Oliver66]

It looks prettier but smaller than the Lipari...
i'll keep mine ...

[Saleen411]

Originally Posted by Oliver66

It looks prettier but smaller than the Lipari...
i'll keep mine ...

Tiny bit smaller .....6 inches in length and 4 inches in beam.....38'6'' vs 39'2' length

21'9'' vs 22' 1" beam

However, the Lucia is lighter by .9T and has greater sail area.

Air draft on the Lucia is 63'4..which is good for those who sail/motor the ICW.

I am very intrigued by this boat....wish there had been one at the Annapolis boat show.

For now, our yacht of choice is the Helia.

[Dod42]

Are you sure on the weight? When I look at the early info they where not specifying loaded or in loaded weights


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[rabbi]

I have been at the Düsseldorf boat show and had a look at the Lucia.


The Lucia looks a big short and stumpy but nice lines overall.
The exterior has good antiskid and flush hatches, wide side decks. Overall easy to move around without nasty surprises, at least for me.

The helm station is nicely layed out, with built in storage for at least some of the lines. No rig was present, but obviously the genoa sheet rails (or are they called travellers?) are pretty short. Better than our Mahe which has just a standup block.
I don't like that some lines are hidden under panels for crossing to the port side.
Lots of space for sunbathing on the bimini, or better solar panels.


The solid foredeck is quite long with comfortable cushions for lounging, but has just a short netting area in front. Overall the bridgedeck is very long for the size of the boat, something I don't like.
I also don't like the anchor setup in the bridgedeck (we have that on the Mahe and its a PITA).
Engine rooms are generous, with plenty of room for add-ons. Batteries are roughly at sea level, so any major flooding will cause power loss. The Mahe has the batteries at bridgedeck level. The saildrives are behind the rudder, and not at the centerline of the hull but a bit outside. No clue if that has any negative effect.
Autopilot as part of electronics package come with hydraulic linear drive.

EDIT: Standard engines are 20hp VP. Im usually a fan of smallish engines but this seems a bit too small for the windage. Upgrade to 30hp is relatively cheap at 2800 euro.


Interior is modern, with square layout and ...well... Ikea style. Like it or not.

I do like that they used the floor in the salon area for storage, but wonder why they made the floor hollow in the first place instead of raising the bridgedeck clearance. Maybe has something to do with spreading the loads across two separate levels.
There are two large hatches in the front windows for ventilation, and one overhead hatch in the galley area. Very little space for food preparation, so better to eat out.

The aft cabins have lots of light, airy feel for the boat size. The beds are narrow (150cm at the head and 140cm at the foot end) to allow for some decorative panels at the head side and easier access from the side, semi island style. Even the beds in a Mahe are wider...

The bow cabin is smaller, but nicely appointed and has some nice & useful bookshelfs. Good light and ventilation throughout.
The presented layout was a 3 cabin owners version with 3 heads, one in owners hulls and 2 in the guest hull. Those small heads are just a compromise. I'd go for the 2 head layout unless intended for charter.

The owners hull can be separated from the salon with a sliding door, and has a small but really useable desk with some bookshelfs. Not much storage overall. Separate toilet room, and nice head with shower stall, big access door to the washing machine in front of the shower.


Overall a really nice boat, but clearly FP is following the trend of squeezing too much volume into a boat. Compromises are going more and more towards creature comfort, leaving sailing and safety behind. I guess its easier to sell comfort than other qualities.
Build quality looked OK. That is "OK", not "good". Once you look behind some panels you see that bilges, etc are no longer what they used to be. Interior fittings and latches are stylish but flimsy and won't last long.

The dealers brag about the weight of "just 8.9tons". Its even prominently listed on the price list, just as if you could tick this option (price: 0,00 Euro).
They even tried to impress me with the SA/D of 10 and compared that to the numbers for the Lagoon 39 and 400, but didn't know the Mahe has SA/D of 15. I heard similar comments in the talks with other dealers, so I guess they were educated to mention this as a selling point.
They are trying to sell a boat clearly focussed on creature comfort on it's performance characteristics.


Some details on the design (square layout, hard corners, hard edges, cheap glued-on edge bands, Alpi wood) are similar to the Lagoon interior style introduced a couple of years ago. Lagoon is already moving away from that in the 42. The new style is square layout but soft corners, better looking & feeling Alpi wood and high quality thick wood edges. I bet we will see that in the next FP as well.



The biggest issue: Price. Simply not competitive.


This 38.5 ft Lucia is 8000 Euro more than the 40ft Lagoon 400 in today's Euro price lists.
Most options are much more expensive in a Lucia than in a Lagoon 400, some even twice as much: Lazybag 1456 vs 728, cockpit cushions 4290 vs 2089, cockpit enclosure 3410 vs 2016, etc. Only very few options are cheaper.

The current hype around the Lucia adds to this:
In a Lagoon one may get a good single digit % dealer discount. Maybe there is a boat show package / deal, I forgot to ask.
The Lucia is sold at list price, at least in Düsseldorf. No boat show deal and no discount as they have no reason to offer incentives: around 70 boats sold and lead times well into 2017.

[rabbi]

and here is a video (not mine):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLAysZmWY4Y