Lipari 41: Lipari asymmetric spinnaker size

[Toys_with_time]

Could someone with a Lipari please give me the luff, foot and if possible leach measurements for an asymmetric spinnaker for a Lipari

Thanks

TwT

[Dod42]

I had another one of those eBay moments over Christmas and ended up buying a Symmetrical cruising Spinnaker. We didn't get the bowsprit so i am planning on flying this from a bridle attached to the fore beam. I have done this before on a different boat and it seemed to work well. I am about to order an ATN spinnaker sox to make launch and dowse easy. The Spinnaker I bought is 14.7 mtr luff. Probably just a little big but it was a good price. Measuring up over the weekend and will have a better idea after that. Will keep you posted and maybe photos if I get it flown over the weekend.

[Oliver66]

Hi guy's;

here is mine give me your email using PM, and I'll send you all data I have about it.
I don't have bowsprit and made a double block system for tacking.
size is approx 92m²

[Dod42]

Very nice, love the colours. Do you use a sock?
I found the 14.7 luff I had too big so I have ended up getting one 13.2 mtr luff and bonus it comes with an ATN sock which makes launching, dowsing and jybing SO much easier. I will post a photo once I pick it up next week.

[Toys_with_time]

Originally Posted by Dod42

Very nice, love the colours. Do you use a sock?
I found the 14.7 luff I had too big so I have ended up getting one 13.2 mtr luff and bonus it comes with an ATN sock which makes launching, dowsing and jybing SO much easier. I will post a photo once I pick it up next week.

Interesting about the size. I have had quotes from 2 sail lofts and sizes to suit Lipari have been given as:

16.42 luff 8.87 foot 114 m2 and
12.75 luff 6.67 foot 77 m2

hence my original question as that is a big difference. Would love to hear from someone who bought an asymmetric with their Lipari from FP (Incidence sails) to find out what size they supply.

TwT

[Dod42]

According to the manual and my tape measure the distance from the ring on them mast where the spinnaker halyard leaves the mast to the top of the factory supplied furler is 14.5 meters (Manual shows 14478) so I can't see how an Asymmetrical Luff could be longer than that. I hoisted my 14.7 mtr Symetrical and I could fly it provided I didn't want to see where I was going. This is why I went with the 13.2 as it gave me good clearance and room for the ATN sock at the top.

[Oliver66]

hi guy's,
I do use an ATN sock. So easy to use !!!
imho, a 114m² spi sould be too big and 77m² too small..

[Oliver66]

Originally Posted by Toys_with_time

Interesting about the size. I have had quotes from 2 sail lofts and sizes to suit Lipari have been given as:

16.42 luff 8.87 foot 114 m2 and
12.75 luff 6.67 foot 77 m2

hence my original question as that is a big difference. Would love to hear from someone who bought an asymmetric with their Lipari from FP (Incidence sails) to find out what size they supply.

TwT

well,
I bought mine at a local sail-maker, FP price was nearly double...
here are data of mine if it can help...

[Toys_with_time]

Originally Posted by Oliver66

well,
I bought mine at a local sail-maker, FP price was nearly double...
here are data of mine if it can help...

That many Nos does my head in but as far as I can determine your size is in between the 2 I have been quoted if your luff is 13.55 and this would seem to equate with Dod42 figure of 14.5 maximum length available.
What cloth weight has anyone got theirs in and what is the max wind strength and minimum angle they can fly their AS in?
At the moment just have a gennaker but find I have to either 3rd reef the main or drop the main if wind comes from anywhere broad reach or beyond.

[Toys_with_time]

Originally Posted by Dod42

According to the manual and my tape measure the distance from the ring on them mast where the spinnaker halyard leaves the mast to the top of the factory supplied furler is 14.5 meters (Manual shows 14478) so I can't see how an Asymmetrical Luff could be longer than that. I hoisted my 14.7 mtr Symetrical and I could fly it provided I didn't want to see where I was going. This is why I went with the 13.2 as it gave me good clearance and room for the ATN sock at the top.

Just had a look at your sail plan and realise that they have included dimensions such as the spinnaker luff max distance plus drawn in the bowsprit - much more useful. The one I got with mine was pretty basic. I have converted the various Lipari drawings to scale drawings if anyone wants a copy. Useful for checking distance when not on board.

[Oliver66]

Originally Posted by Toys_with_time

That many Nos does my head in but as far as I can determine your size is in between the 2 I have been quoted if your luff is 13.55 and this would seem to equate with Dod42 figure of 14.5 maximum length available.
What cloth weight has anyone got theirs in and what is the max wind strength and minimum angle they can fly their AS in?
At the moment just have a gennaker but find I have to either 3rd reef the main or drop the main if wind comes from anywhere broad reach or beyond.

spec on the photo mine is High Tenacity Nylon 70.

I use it till 15knots true wind. Over that I don't...
I can fly it from 150/140 to 70/80 apparent wind angle.
with my tacking system I can "briddle" it like a gennak if i want...or nearly as a symetric spi and then down wind but in that case without mainsail.

[Toys_with_time]

Originally Posted by Oliver66

spec on the photo mine is High Tenacity Nylon 70.

I use it till 15knots true wind. Over that I don't...
I can fly it from 150/140 to 70/80 apparent wind angle.
with my tacking system I can "briddle" it like a gennak if i want...or nearly as a symetric spi and then down wind but in that case without mainsail.

You have the same cloth weight I was thinking of. What is the lightest breeze you can fly it in without constant collapsing?

TwT

[Oliver66]

Originally Posted by Toys_with_time

You have the same cloth weight I was thinking of. What is the lightest breeze you can fly it in without constant collapsing?

TwT

I would say 4/5 knots real wind ?

[R2boat]

So guys...all well and good but where does it sheet? Added a turning block? Locations and obviously a winch somewhere? I guess cannot do that from the helm...

Photos are great ....

[Dod42]

See the reply and photos in the owner thread