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Originally Posted by pguillemin
Alan
You love boat bashing...don't you ?being Orana or Mahe !!!
If I recall, ont he Mahe forum some of the real owners were not too happy about your comments!and they are using their boats....some across the oceans.So ?
Boat building is not an exact science.We do built custom boats as well ( Multiplast) and they are great.Pricing for a 60' is 4 time the price of a production 60...it keep custom boat as a niche.and make them very difficult to resale .One guy dream is not necesseraly everybody's dream.
Also a lot of bad to very bad custom boats built by yards which have never built a multihull before.They are learning at the owner expanse
FP has built over 200 Lavezzi ( in the boats which are in production) and very few -contrary to Lagoon-go to the charter fleet.I saw them in all corners of the world from South Chile to New Zealand ,from Singapore to the Maldives.....and we do have happy owners as you can see on the forums or web site.Obviously we cannot please everyone but at the end it is boat value .
So please look positive
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I did say there would be some flack
pguillemin, I don't think I'm boat bashing, someone asked for
advice, and I'm giving my views, if you consider that boat bashing then fine.
I think my
posting was balanced and not as negative as you are trying to make out.
If you reread my last post, you will note that I didn't mention any make of boat, and I also advised that a good
surveyor be used, regardless of whether it was a custom or a series boat.
Isbolick wanted a high quality boat, I don't think the boats you
import to the US are high quality boats, they are reasonable quality at a reasonable
price IMO as I think is fairly clear in my post.
I have visited the factories in
France, and had a close look at the way the boats are built. I have owned a
Tobago since 2000. A couple of my friends have bought Tobagos on my reccomendation and after sailing with me.
If you can't handle the fact that someone with a
marine engineering background and 20 years experience as a cat owner says things as he sees them, then bad luck. Your comments are not going to get me to keep quiet, when people who don't have alot of experience ask for
advice, or if people with a problem with a certain type of boat (like on the Mahe thread you mentioned) are unsure of how demanding they should be of a supplier who is trying to duck certain design or quality issues.
This is a forum not a sailing magazine where the opinions stated have to take account of the fact that
income from advertising could be
lost if a review is too negative.
pguillemin may I suggest that you register yourself on this forum as a vendor, so all can see where you're coming from and draw their own conclusions as to who might have a
commercial interests in a given thread.
I'm also looking forward to seeing your answer to jzk's statement of how second hand
charter boat prices drive down the price of all the boats of that type.
Maybe you could even take some
current or recent examples of sales that disprove the 7 year old 30-50% depreciation statements?
Regards
Alan