Venezia 42: Heads are Tiny

[Limpet]

The 42' Fountain Pajot Venezia seems like a nice affordable boat. But what the heck is the deal with the heads? They are phone booth size.

Did this boat come with an owners version layout which perhaps improved upon this issue? I have searched and found reference to them, but have never found any pictures.

Thanks,

[senormechanico]

We looked at one of those boats in Southern California back in the late '90's. It had the 4 berths/2 heads version which looked like a charter setup. I think it's by far the most numerous version.

Steve B.

[white rabbitt]

It does have an owners version with a separate shower compartment

[SimonV]

In a seaway a compact head is a good thing. Brace with elbows knees and forehead.

[LeaseOnLife]

it's built for Europeans, not supersized Americans.


couldn't resist

[marshmat]

Head space doesn't sell a charter. Cabin space does. So do individual ensuite heads.

Therefore, when designing with the charter market in mind, you specify several small head compartments instead of one roomy one. In order to maximize the cabin space, you make the heads as small as possible. Access to the hoses, pumps, etc. isn't as important, because the boat won't be in charter service long enough for that to matter- and, in any case, hired help would be doing the work.

A lot of manufacturers do this, because it sells. For cruising- where you have to fix things yourself- I would argue that a prudent designer will specify fewer, but larger, head compartments. You can always add handrails for bracing yourself in a seaway, but you don't want to cut through a bulkhead to get to the discharge hose when it breaks.

[DtM]

My wife's response would be simple, designed by a man !!!

She is right.

[stevensuf]

why dont they make boats with one larger head, ideal at anchor or in marina and one tight one, ideal for at sea.

[Nautic Voyager]

I've ripped out my port head pod and moved everything to the fore cabin.
This gives a much larger head and separate shower cubicle and a much larger space for an office in between.

My Venezia is an owner's version but had two small heads from the factory. The Port forward cabin was designed as a dry locker and workshop. It was a nice idea but it lacked any design and looked more like an afterthought. I think the layout now s much better and has a more considered design but I would say that because I designed it.

Excellent blue water cruiser though and I love it.

Marc
Nauticvoyager.com

[Orion Jim]

Originally Posted by SimonV

In a seaway a compact head is a good thing. Brace with elbows knees and forehead.

Done that more often than I care to admit…..

[Nautic Voyager]

Originally Posted by Limpet

The 42' Fountain Pajot Venezia seems like a nice affordable boat. But what the heck is the deal with the heads? They are phone booth size.

Did this boat come with an owners version layout which perhaps improved upon this issue? I have searched and found reference to them, but have never found any pictures.

Thanks,

I have the owner's version and have ripped out the phone booth and currently installing a large head in the old workshop (Portside fore cabin).
You can follow my progress here:

https://youtu.be/ecx3cgKmVQs

The Venezia is a great boat, I love it!