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Sand crab · 09-02-2012, 07:58

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One cool feature is the dinghy cuddy. You raise the dinghy up into the carport and it's out of the weather and there is a lounging platforrm on top.
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**Palarran** · 09-02-2012, 13:47

When I first saw the new FP design for the dingy storage I thought is was cool, but now wouldn't buy one with that feature. Two things; in the picture you can see that the outboard shaft is hanging below the tunnel which at some point is going to hit water, and it limits you on the length and design of the dingy. I much prefer the Lagoon 57 design compared to this.

Also, I know all the builders are doing the raised flybridge, but I don't like them when they are completely above the cockpit roof. I think the Orana had one that was 1/2 up, which would be nice, but ultimately I like not ever having to worry about my boom.

**Therapy** · 09-02-2012, 16:15

Beautiful.

All shiny.

Sooner or later that dingy is going to get smacked. Not just the prop/foot.

**Cotemar** · 10-02-2012, 11:04

Where are the Stern Hand Rails.
Since the stern scoops are the entrance (Front door for your quest) to get on board. You should make it easy for them.

Life Lines, Railings and Trampoline

**Palarran** · 10-02-2012, 11:52

Man, I hope your joking about this. It's two steps up?

I'd guess that if my "guests" can't negotiate that it's either because they are so old they shouldn't be on the boat or so drunk that they wouldn't care.

**Cotemar** · 10-02-2012, 11:56

Palarran,

Did you not see the picture? And no I am not joking.
This is real world. The two steps are not the problem.
Its the holding on to the boat to get your footing thats the problem.

**Palarran** · 10-02-2012, 12:15

Yes, I can see the picture. I also can see a hand rail in the first one posted by Sand Crab. Being critical of their loading in your post is, IMO, is still a joke. Look on the oposite side, would that, could that, be a hand rail? In fact, I see two of them.

If you pointed out that in a large following sea the waves are going to climb all the way up those two steps and splash the cockpit, that would be a valid concern.

**Cotemar** · 10-02-2012, 12:20

Palarran,

That is a cleat to tie the dink to on the other side.
Not a Hand Rail.

And if your going to have grandma enjoy your new yacht and you tell her to just hold on to one of those small inside dingy cleats. Be prepared to take grandma to the emergengy room to get stitches on the top of her head from the wave that just made her head slam up into the dingy davit overhang that she is under.

Oh sorry Grandma, The guy on the blog said it would be ok

**Therapy** · 10-02-2012, 13:56

I would want more handrail, thank you.

One low and one really high so when the dink escapes from under me I can hang over the bottom step.

You should have seen the Whoopee -do I did last year!!!

In case anyone is counting the votes.

**jglauds** · 04-05-2012, 13:51

I'm not sure why FP has such an issue with handholds. On our Orana, we had to add handrails all around the cabintop skirt to make it safe to walk around at sea ... we also added a handrail above the wheel at the helm station ... again, the designers seem to assume you're at anchor all the time ...

Handholds = improved safety

The Sanya sugar scoop problem is easily remedied but it's a shame it wasn;t thought thru ...

yeloya · 08-05-2012, 07:09

I was just next to her in Goudaloupe a month ago..I was not so much interested with hand rails, whatever. You can add them as much as you want later. Dingy platform was definately a problem with Salina but shouldn't be an issue with this size of catamaran.
I had just two concerns about the Sanya looking from outside: bridgedeck seemed to be low for her size and the hulls are quite bulky.. Add to that rather conservative rigging (in FP standards) the end result could be a sluggish sailing..
FP has always taken at first place the sailing aspects of the boat, hence, was too reluctant in introducing the flying bridge, like Lagoon did. Sanya is the right size for implementing the flying bridge and I believe this was niely achieved without compromising the sailing properties of the boat. It's sad though to see that people go for flying bridge even at 45 feet (Lagoon 450) and FP is badly loosing ground in the market place.. I've sailed my Orana over 15.000 nm and Lagoon 450 for a while. The difference under sail is huge. And yet 450 is over selling Orana. It's really sad..
I think FP is heading up to a difficult question: accept the trend and go the way Lagoon is taking or insisting to focus on sailing (and also seaworthyness) aspect of their boat. Being 57 ft, there wasn't a real problem for Sanya in incorporating the flying brdge nicely. But what will happen with next generations of Salina and Orana ? looking at the success they had with, I wouldn't be surprised if Lagoon starts putting a flying bridge on 40-42 ft catamaranas

Cheers
Yeloya

spiv · 09-05-2012, 10:45

I had my Salina for 1.5y now and I can tell you that the dinghy is not a problem.
It is always dry and clean, I can lower/raise it in seconds, never had a wave hit it yet even in a 30kn following sea down the Atlantic coast of Spain.
And the outboard leg does stick out a bit, so it does in any other catamaran dinghy, if I get worried on a long passage I will remove it as most cruisers do and hang it on the rail.
Also, it positively locks under the sundeck and does not swing port and starboard at sea.

I bought a few handrails and added here and there where needed, so that was a simple thing to solve.

The half bridgedeck is great, we hang in there unless it is raining.
The boom is low and I can zip/unzip the bag, fold the main easily.

All these features seem the same in the Sanya, so I think FP has thought about it.

These boats are built for sailing as well as dock living, very difficult thing to achieve in a cat.

Hopefully someone with a Sanya will post his experiences soon and we will stop speculating.....

MIRELOS · 21-05-2012, 12:34

[QUOTE=Palarran;883945]Man, I hope your joking about this. It's two steps up?

I'd guess that if my "guests" can't negotiate that it's either because they are so old they shouldn't be on the boat or so drunk that they wouldn't care.

How old is "so old", my mom enjoys sailing with me and she is 92.
drunk is another story.