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Old 30-09-2012, 00:03   #46
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Re: Buying a Helia 44

capcook,

send me a MP with your email I'll send you the photos I made at La Rochelle...

Just if you can make the trip, there will be an Helia Maestro in Paris show in december...
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Old 30-09-2012, 02:40   #47
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Re: Buying a Helia 44

The Australian agent from Multihull Solutions has returned from France and had the chance to sail the He'lia 44 while at La Rochelle. His report was the boat sailed well in the light breeze they experienced, with 7.5 kts of actual breeze the boat managed 5 kts. The report from the factory crew was it performed better than the Orana 44.
The finish was as that of the 'Flagship' range ie. Sanya 57 etc and that in his opinion this is the best boat FP have designed and built in its 27 years.
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Old 30-09-2012, 12:49   #48
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Re: Buying a Helia 44

Hi gordon, that sounds nice...
I had chance to sail Mahé, Lavezi, Orana, Sanya, Belize and Salina...
for me best "sailing one" is salina...
5 on 7,5 nts... that is really good !!!
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Old 04-10-2012, 00:38   #49
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Re: Buying a Helia 44

Helia #1 displayed in Cannes and later in Istanbul boat show have been bought by one of our customers and will be in our charter fleet next year, in addition to another Helia that we bought as a company. This latter willl be delivered in early March but the #1 is still in Istanbul and I will probably (if I have time) sail her to Marmaris (500 nm). You will then have a detailed review on how she sails
Meanwhile, as Gordon pointed out the finish is way better than Orana; #1 that sailed from La Rochelle to Istanbul didn't show any sign of fatigue, small cracks or whatsoever.
By the way, noy yet officially confirmed but I have the feeling that a new 50-52 feeter will be announced by mid 2013..
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Re: Buying a Helia 44

hi yeloya,

this 50 feet will replace the salina ???
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Re: Buying a Helia 44

Hi... does anyone have the Height Above Water for the New Helia ?

I didn't see that metric on the website...

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I was at the boat show this week and had the chance to be in both Lagoon 450 and Helia 44. World of difference. The fit and finish in the Helia is quite bad, the roof height in the hulls (both coridors and cabins) is quite low (I literally bumped my head twice) and the steps are way too steep. If you're thinking the Helia as a liveaboard, go for the Lagoon. Yes, it may be lighter but there's a very obvious reason for that!
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Re: Buying a Helia 44

Hi MehmetCan, can't comment on the finish but just a note to others the ceiling height in the cabins is 1.95m or 6'3". I imagine the saloon similar or taller. What height are you just to have some reference.

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Re: Buying a Helia 44

Hi MehmetCat,

I am unable to coment on the finish, but just to let our readers know, the height throughout the cabins is 1.95m or 6' 3" and I imagine the saoon is similar or higher.
Here is a link to some more images.

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Re: Buying a Helia 44

Hi Mehmetcan,

Everyone has its own views and tastes.. I had one customer who had already decided to buy a 450 to put a charter on us after chartering both 450 and Orana several times from us. He came to the boat show for ordering a 450, saw the Helia and has bought the number 1 Helia right there..
I have to say that the owner is not a keen sailor but his priority is on space,finish quality and he believed that Helia was way better than 450 in these attributes.

I've heard the same comments from many other customers too, but again, everyone has its own views..

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Hi Mehmet Can.
Could you develop your point about the lightness of the Hélia "there is very obvious reason for that". We are just about to buy a cat and hesitate between the 450 and the Helia.
I agree with you on the finish wich is much better on the lagoon, (has always been) but the fly deck is a problem for us (too isolated from the rest of the boat). It's the reason why we are seriously looking at the Hélia. So all your comments are, and will be, very usefull.
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Re: Buying a Helia 44

Here is a good place to start when picking which FP to buy.
Here are the FP Base Prices from the Annapolis 2012 boat show
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Hi MehmetCan, can't comment on the finish but just a note to others the ceiling height in the cabins is 1.95m or 6'3". I imagine the saloon similar or taller. What height are you just to have some reference.

HELIA 44new 2013

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I'm 6'4" (oddly enough, just one inch taller), however, the interior feels, cramped...

The reason for lightness is simple, Lagoon is full of extra equipment that you wouldn't need to increase the sail performance. I'm not implying anything like "less building material" for the FP, however, it's obvious that Lagoon is built with more.

As for taste, I couldn't agree more, everyone has their own. If I was looking for a cat that I would sail on weekends, I'd probably choose FP. However, Lagoon seems more suitable for liveaboard crusing, especially with it's gorgeous flybridge (and yes, I know many hate that, but it's a great vantage point and gathering area. Plus seems much safer to get there and return back to cockpit than the alternate on FP).

Last but certainly not least, both brands are not racing monsters, so comfort should be the primary concern in decision. And Lagoon's berths look much more comfortable and since all of them are island beds, much easier to change sheets or put the cover on.
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Hi Mehmet Can.
Could you develop your point about the lightness of the Hélia "there is very obvious reason for that". We are just about to buy a cat and hesitate between the 450 and the Helia.
I agree with you on the finish wich is much better on the lagoon, (has always been) but the fly deck is a problem for us (too isolated from the rest of the boat). It's the reason why we are seriously looking at the Hélia. So all your comments are, and will be, very usefull.
A bientôt.
The flydeck as you call it is absolutely an asset. We wondered about it and find we love it. There is no isolation you can see all and there is room for 6+ to sit.

Every boat i have ever sailed or been on the passengers want to be where the action is and a 440/450 helm position is where it is at.

We have electric winches on all sheets, my wife helms, trims the boat without any problem from there.

Best possie in rough weather as you can see it all instead of a sea level view.....Just my learned opinion.
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My point exactly...
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