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Old 19-09-2012, 16:36   #1
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Helia 44 Bimini top
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Old 21-10-2013, 09:18   #2
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Re: Helm Station

Here is a few picture of SeaDame's new Hard top Helm Bimini. He had a company in Florida make it for him.

They did a great job from what I had seen.
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Re: Bimini

Sorry but that looks truly awful.

know anyone who's had a real hard dodger fabricated from glass?
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Old 19-06-2014, 05:25   #4
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Sorry but that looks truly awful.

know anyone who's had a real hard dodger fabricated from glass?
Have not seen one, but that should not stop you from making one if you feel that someone can make one for you to your design. Sometimes you just have to think outside the box.

A curvier, rounder design will of course cost more.
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Have not seen one, but that should not stop you from making one if you feel that someone can make one for you to your design. Sometimes you just have to think outside the box.

A curvier, rounder design will of course cost more.
Yes. Agree. I'll look further into this. Perhaps a few other folks want one. I'll se if i can make a half doz.
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Old 22-10-2014, 12:05   #6
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Can one of you Helia 44 owners give me a measurement from the water to the highest point on your helm bimini?
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Old 22-10-2014, 19:44   #7
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Hello Cotemar, and Helia Owners,

I have that canvas top, the roof done like shown with a skylight window over the winch work area, like in some of the Helia pictures.. Mine has the full enclosure, but a combination canvas and clear, all in zip up panels so you can run on full enclosure or not.. It has a lot more style to it, with the stainless supports running forward over the winches, so a bit of an aerodynamic rake.. Now summer in Oz, the front panel is out, and starboard walkway panel is out, and the port access to the sunbathing area is out..

In the future, when this canvas goes, I will replace the roof in fibreglass matching the Helia. Then the panels on the sides will be add ons, and I can also have uninterrupted solar on the roof of the helm.

On mine, to port, a section unzips in the overhead roof to allow you to walk up to the sunbathers area. That is my access to raising and lowering of the main. I have it unzipped and rolled back tied out of the way on the roof of the bimini.

Now a note: I do not like the rake look so much, and we may drop the back of the bimini stainless by about 100 mm, maybe 150, and lower the main boom by about the same so it is more of a flat horizontal look at anchor. That is just me, my eye appeal. Face it, we have to enjoy the look of it, that is part of the Art Form..

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Helia 44,
So, is that your way of saying you can give me the dimension from the water to the top of your canvas Bimini ?
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Old 23-10-2014, 16:34   #9
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So, is that your way of saying you can give me the dimension from the water to the top of your canvas Bimini ?
I will be on the boat Saturday puttering around all day, and getting ready for a dual 2 Club race on Sunday, and I will endeavor to remember to get you your measurement... But why is that of such interest??? No bearing on the bimini or potential enclosure.. So why? to the water? Just curious....

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Think Helia 44 Air Draft.
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OK Cotemar,
Maybe I am just a little dense today....? What are you showing me?

I still don't get it.. First of all on my helm, my front panel is raked back and a pretty extreme angle. If I give up on more racing performance and stick with the Helia for sure, when the canvas goes I will put on a FG top about the same size with a skylight window for sail work... I was also thinking of an extremely raked back solid front window in Lexan Plexiglass, with a windshield wiper as well. There would be slots for sheets and halyard fet to the winches and Jamb cleats... Then around the sides and back I would have the canvas panel options with windows to roll down. OK?

I don't get it with the Helia you show with no mast? Is that a Helia Power Cat? What are you trying to say.. And how much do you want to worry with a radically sloped back windscreen dodger, in what minor wind drag in comparison to the comfort / shelter in cold or salt water spray...

Sorry, but I still don't get it.. If the windscreen is not blunt, but raked back, the windage would be minimal to not matter, and you are out of the weather and salt spray in your face when going to windward..
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Is that a Helia Power Cat?
Looking for the air draft of a Helia 44 Trawler.

No sails needed.

Think KITE
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Re: Bimini

I will try and get that for you...

One comment on the side, I do not understand why people would get the same boat without the rig??? I guess it must be $$$$ but it seems for fuel economy most Power Cats do not cruise any faster than I do with the rig up..
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Cotemar,

It measures 3.8 M off the water to midway in the bimini rake.....


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Can I get the measurement to the highest point on your Bimini?
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