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Old 06-07-2009, 05:30   #16
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I discussed the hatch idea with Philippe and he thought it was a bad idea because the bulkhead is right there. This could weaken the structual strength of the boat.
Also, I've had 2 guy's tell me no to replacing the batteries. You can do it, it just takes some time and a few bruises. Have one of your sons help, he can do all the heavy lifting and you can do all the drinking!

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Old 06-07-2009, 08:07   #17
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I didn't think about that...I have 3 sons that should be enough,he he he,all I need to do for them is buy a bottle of Captain Morgan. By the way I spoke this morning with someone at FP in France,hopefully everything is going to be taken care off very shortly,they are working on it. I haven't sailed in over a month now,my main sail is going to be full of spider webs.....
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Old 07-07-2009, 09:36   #18
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Everytime I look at the batteries and think about pulling them out I do have cold sweats.....who ever is going to do that is going to want to kill me because I know I can't do it.Scott I thought you had cut a hole over the batteries and installed a hatch? Anybody has a better idea,may be Philippe could tell us if he has done it.
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We have replaced a few batteries.
The easiest is to cut the front panel then reinstall it with hinges
But we have been able to pull batteries out without that on Larry Winchell 's Mahe after she was hit by lightning
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Old 07-07-2009, 11:18   #19
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Philippe there is no front panel on my boat.All there is is a little piece of 1' by 1' piece of wood. They shoud have set those batteries 6" lower and there would be no problems.My batteries are over 2 years old,how long before I have to replace them,in the old days they would last for ever.By the way are those batteries sealed? I hope they are.
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Old 07-07-2009, 13:24   #20
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On the port side in the ER you should have a white panel in front of the batteries which support the switches and breakers.
This one can be cut on its two edges and mounted with hinges back
Batteries are sealed
As of battery life ,I never heard of forever.I think that the new tech is giving you better batteries
Before you had to go to golf cart ,Surettes or Rolls batteries to get good flooded one and they were very heavy,very expensive and still needed to be replaced every 5 years
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Old 07-07-2009, 14:56   #21
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On our boat there is no panel in front of the batteries, the battery box, which has the breakers and switches for the engines, is on the starboard side of the battery tray and does not have to be removed or cut to replace the batteries. You could cut off the lip of the tray and glue or screw it back on, but you can lift the batteries above the lip on the left side of the tray, there is more room above the battery so you can, bearly, clear the lip to slide the battery out.

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Old 07-07-2009, 15:59   #22
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Our breakers and switches are on the starboard side of the tray?shelf.

there is a lip (about 1" or so as described). I hae not ried yet and I am not looking forward to it but it seems to me that there will just be enough clearance to get the batteries out. i may well cut the 1" batten and find another way to hold them in.

Hopefully we will have a few more years yet.

We have not added an whole lot of gear that requires messing in the battery area (yet).

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Old 07-07-2009, 19:34   #23
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Battery box

Thanks for the info. Mine has a lip where the batteries are, probably about 50mm (2in) high. I have not looked to see whether there is enough clearance to port but I had also thought of cutting the lip out and will probably do so to make it easier. It would be easy to replace iit with a screw/bolt on panel.

PS: My son is an apprentice marine electrician. The down side is he took one look at it and said "you can do that yourself, count me out"
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Old 07-07-2009, 19:35   #24
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BTW - what I have taken to doing to find out what actually happens in the out of the way places is to shove a digital camera up and take some pictures so I can study it at my lesiure
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Old 12-07-2009, 07:36   #25
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Here are two pictures I took at the factory when I sailed my boat in France. Unfortunately they had already changed to the new batterie config. But it does answer the question of how FP wires them.

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Old 12-07-2009, 12:08   #26
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Battery replacement...

Hi Guys,

Battery replacement…this is not an easy job!!

I replaced the batteries on our boat after about 10 months of continuous use (liveaboard), we replaced them with 4 Trojan T105 (6V), which are excellent and increased our capacity by about 25%.

Basically you have to move the battery into the upper space (under the rear guard rail bolts) to the left hand side above the battery box, there is just enough room the get the first battery into this space, then the others come out a little easier after this. The batteries are sealed, which is a god send whilst doing this job.

Not prepared to go through this routine again, I modified my battery box, by cutting out the tray section, retaining the actual switch panel (see picture) and replacing the current copper bar’s, which join the batteries with normal battery connection leads. The batteries are held down with two substantial webbing straps with bottom rails in front and behind the batteries screwed to the shelf to prevent movement, which now make’s the job of battery inspection and replacement one not to dread. We are now currently in Titusville (Florida) and can report that this modification has performed without exception on our journey from Grenada.

We have now done over 7000+ miles on our Mahe (hull #86) and loving every minute.

We have had our fair share of usual problems, which are well documented on this forum all of which have been rectified via our agent (MI Cats) through to FP, who have always supported us without any fuss once an issue has been raised, can’t ask for more!

Sorry to hear that some of you are having blistering problems. I have had the boat out of the water twice for antifouling and can confirm that under the original antifouling we had an epoxy coating (light grey in colour). We have no signs of any blistering at this point and will be keeping a close eye on it.

Hope this helps.
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Old 13-07-2009, 09:23   #27
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Hi Kev,
Thanks for the info on your battery change out. You have done exactly what I want to do. One question though. I couldn't tell from your picture but were you able to put all four Trojans into the same space as the original three batteries? It has been difficult for me to get an accurate idea of what the dimensions of that space are though the pictures posted by others make it easier.
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Old 13-07-2009, 12:52   #28
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Hi Lori,

Yes all 4 batteries fit with room to spare (2 batteries facing you with 2 behind) so as far as we are concerned it has been a really good modification.
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Thanks for the information. You dont happen to have a water filling system for those batteries do you? Or some sort of water miser cap? I was wondering because once you put in those trojans you have to start maintaining them and there doesnt look to be too much room to do so.
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Old 14-07-2009, 10:58   #30
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Do you really want to be using unsealed batteries in a boat?
I would think that not only from a maintenance point of view (pain in the arse), but from a safety point of view- if in the ever so small chance that your boat were to flip, all electronics would be rendered useless.
I know sealed batteries are more expensive, but I, for one, would think there is no other option.
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