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Old 12-10-2013, 10:02   #31
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Re: Shortcut Keys List

F10 does something very subtle to the Cursor lat/long position that is displayed below chart bar on my XP machine . I haven't a clue .Thought it might be toggling some kind of offset..?

it'd be best if each thing had one short cut wouldn't it?

"T" is unlikeable. All single-letter/number shortcuts are unlikeable and easy to hit unawares.
I'm generalising and winging it but in Windows, single key shortcuts are only invoked from the Right-Click context menu. And these have the option to be shown underlined.
Try it, Windows folk. even if the underline option has not been set, use the first letter. Try it in O.,right-clicking anywheres
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Old 12-10-2013, 10:22   #32
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F10 does something very subtle to the Cursor lat/long position that is displayed below chart bar on my XP machine . I haven't a clue .Thought it might be toggling some kind of offset..?
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F10 is not a hot key for O. I get no hit searching the source code.
Still,... it could be something set on your computer for F10 that plays up.
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Hello,

some shortcuts seem not working on Mac OsX :

cmd Space
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cmd +
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Happy Seagull, you bring up a good point I think. The letter keys need to be tested in windows! ...actually in all os. It would be great to develop a matrix list of what actually works in each OS AND determine what is user friendly!

Then we figure out what to do, so all have the same shortcuts!!!! (This must be a primary goal.) We may have to consider using the Shift+Fn keys which are a natural.

So please identify clearly your OS and list what DOES NOT work and why. Thanks.
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Old 12-10-2013, 19:34   #35
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F10 is not a hot key for O. I get no hit searching the source code.
Still,... it could be something set on your computer for F10 that plays up.
Thomas
Likely. It's an oddity I only noticed by reading these posts and trying F10!

example is :cursor position 49.466608 -124.883172
push F10
cursor position shown as 49.466315 -124.882722
Push F10 again and it returns to original. It's like a datum shift...but cursor or chart cannot be seen to move.
F10 has nothing anywhere to do I know about...oh well! sorry to bring it up...a distraction for sure.

(testing... remove charts,plugins yada yada...newest beta doesn't do this. Only 3.2 as Portable on XP -I'm done with it!)
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Re: Shortcut Keys List

Hello, Using F6.

PC under W7 stater. ASUS EeeePC 1015 H. OCPN 3.3.1006
Normally, if I read the feature of this PC, OpenGL works on this PC.

1° With OpenGL checked:

If once you press F6, the current level of light appears. MAX example.
If repeatedly is pressed, the light level varies down then up, for example. This works correctly.
But "9" and "8" and "7" ... etc ... should appear. The value of the light level is not displayed. This is not working properly. We do not know where we are.

2° With OpenGL unchecked:

If I presse on F6, le actual level of ligth is display. By example "6".
If repeatedly is pressed, the light level varies down then up, for example. This works correctly.
BUT the level of ligth is not correctly displayed. If you have level "6" at first press, you have level "6" display at each other. This do not work correctly.

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Hello, Using Ctrl G.

PC under W7 stater. ASUS EeeePC 1015 H. OCPN 3.3.1006
Normally, if I read the feature of this PC, OpenGL works on this PC.

Normally this shortcut change color ligth : normal color, green color, red color, etc ...
Normally, the shortcut Ctrl G work only when OpenGL is "On".

If OpenGL is checked or if OpenGL is unchecked, this shortcut do not work on my PC.

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Hello, Using F6.

PC under W7 stater. ASUS EeeePC 1015 H.
Normally, if I read the feature of this PC, OpenGL works on this PC.

1° With OpenGL checked:

If once you press F6, the current level of light appears. MAX example.
If repeatedly is pressed, the light level varies down then up, for example. This works correctly.
But "9" and "8" and "7" ... etc ... should appear. The value of the light level is not displayed. This is not working properly. We do not know where we are.

2° With OpenGL unchecked:

If I presse on F6, le actual level of ligth is display. By example "6".
If repeatedly is pressed, the light level varies down then up, for example. This works correctly.
BUT the level of ligth is not correctly displayed. If you have level "6" at first press, you have level "6" display at each other. This do not work correctly.

B.R. Gilletarom
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I have no problems at all on Linux. It works correctly with/without OpenGL. On a XP box, where OpenGL is grayed out(driver problem?), I can repeat your #2.
You should enter this bug i the tracker.

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Hello, Using Ctrl B.

PC under W7 stater. ASUS EeeePC 1015 H. OCPN 3.3.1006

With nederland S 57 chart, Ctrl B do not run.
With CM93, Ctrl B work correctly.


I added a correction. I closed and restarted OCPN. If we focus properly on a single chart with sufficient zoom, Ctrl B also works with S57 Dutch. . The malfunction is due to the fact that the Dutch charts are not displayed correctly with quilting mode. (See the flyspary about it)
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Hello,

I have tested all shortcuts that I know. I opened a task in flyspray for F6.

If someone as same problem with Ctrl G (#37), please alert here. And then I will open a new task in flyspray.
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Thank you Gilletarom! Will test too.
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I have tested all shortcuts that I know. I opened a task in flyspray for F6.

If someone as same problem with Ctrl G (#37), please alert here. And then I will open a new task in flyspray.
I checked Ctrl B on one Danish S57. No problem on Linux.

For Ctrl G notice the footnote in the wiki
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∗ Ctrl-G may not work on some Windows systems, depending upon the graphics driver implemented.
This is from the release note, when this feature was introduced, so I don't think we can call this a "bug". Maybe we can pinpoint exactly which drivers are problematic.

It does work as expected on Linux.

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Dell XPS 15 Laptop with Intel graphics + Nvidia board.
Win7pro. Using v3.3.910 (realized this was not current afterwards, will check current beta later)

Gilletaron F5 and F6 post #37 similar experience.
With opengl unchecked the F5 changes in 4 stages with CM9s, BSB and ENC.
and F6 dims in steps and just shows green "6" only. Shift-F6 does not seem to reverse the dimming. Shift-F6 reverses.
With opengl checked the F5 works with 4 steps for CM93, BSB and ENC and the stepped and numbered F6 does not work as well generally, no numbers and less of a range in brightness, also there is a flash with the number in it, but otherwise it does not appear.

I found that F8 and Ctrl+Right Arrow for Scale out does not work well or at all.
I found that F8 and F7 Scale out and in does not work with ENC or CM93.

Ctrl+I I don't get a dialogue, when running VDR with some of the AIS log files. Maybe it is something I am not doing or a mode I do not understand.

After realizing that I have to open the Waypoint properties box, and then I can move, delete, insert waypoints into any route, and while still open I can hit Ctrl+Z and undo, but Ctrl+Y does not redo. Then close waypoint properties and Ctrl+Z and Ctrl+Y both seem to work, there is one exception, which is "inserts" are not undone or redone either with the Waypoint Property box open or closed.

L Lights toggle does not seem to work for me for any type of chart BSB, ENC or Cm93. Is this for special charts?
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I don't find the alphanumeric keys a problem in windows the way they are, but what do others think?

What about Shift+arrows could be a bias pan or a normal "fast" pan?

What about a "Home" key to center chart on boat?

What about using
  • PgUp and PgDn keys for change in scale? Zoom in and out.
  • Shift+PgUp and Shift+PgDn for either faster or slower?

Just some thoughts.
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I found that F8 and Ctrl+Right Arrow for Scale out does not work well or at all.
I found that F8 and F7 Scale out and in does not work with ENC or CM93.

+1. Non-intuitive. You must turn quilting off to have this cycle through the charts (already arranged per scale) on your chart bar. But mainly, WHY does it need two shortcuts?

  • F7 Larger Scale Chart (Scale In) or Ctrl + Left-Arrow
  • F8 Smaller Scale Chart (Scale Out) or Ctrl + Right-Arrow


and add my vote to Ptizef's- get rid of the ENTER/RTN key shortcut.(his post :
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I don't find the alphanumeric keys a problem in windows the way they are, but what do others think?
well, I think if you mean "alpha-numeric keys" as single letters. they should have the CTRL, ALT, SHIFT keys added. That is to say, Windows does not use single letter shortcuts unless a menu window is open. But perhaps other OS do? It'd be nice, is all, if OpenCPN could mostly "agree" with each and not step on toes as, say, for instance, using CTRL+V for something unrelated to "Pasting" in Windows...

Also,Page UP,PageDn would be fine to change or "cycle" through charts but not to "zoom". That belongs to "+" ( actually "=" yet another intuitive failure in early keyboard design) and "-"
The arrow keys could then be strictly used intuitively, as they mostly are, for panning and it's iterations.
...I think instead of the "Scaling" concept I'd call it "cycling" through charts...ie: back and forth on the chart bar, whether quilting or not. They are already sorted on the chart bar as to scale so I'm not sure why the result is different with quilting on or off as it is now.
I note that cycling through charts applies only to Rasters, so Perhaps ALT+V or the like, could be used to pop into Vector mode from Raster.

Last, CTRL+O is pretty much my GOTO for "Man Overboard" or whatever blows off the deck .
CTRL+Space is forgettable. O for Overboard? ah, this is Elegance!

ps Microsoft blew it choosing CTRL+P for Print instead of Paste,IMO -who prints? more than pastes? oh,well.....immortal blunder!
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