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Old 05-09-2015, 07:38   #1
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Pink dashed Boundaries, cm93 maps, dont wish to view them

from the manual, it says
Basic Features
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Boundaries

Plain normally just uses a dashed line, while the Symbolized version also uses triangles pointing into the area.
I did see that setting vector charts to basic, they go away, along with everything that you want. There are so many of these pink lines running all over.
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Re: Pink dashed Boundaries, cm93 maps, dont wish to view them

here are some images showing the pink lines with mariner standard selected.


All the dashed pink lines go away with base selected. They just get in the way, Are they chart boundaries? I can not make them go away, is there a change I can make to the opencpn config file? I am running Linu mint 17.2
I tried unticking show chart outlines in Display-General, but they are still there.
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Re: Pink dashed Boundaries, cm93 maps, dont wish to view them

These are sea areas. For example anchorages or protected zones.
So perhaps interesting for you when sailing.
Try to play with the the settings of the vector charts to understand the concept better.
And read the part of the manual regarding vector charts:
Vector Charts | Official OpenCPN Homepage
Itīs for your safety.
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Re: Pink dashed Boundaries, cm93 maps, dont wish to view them

Safety areas?, Regardless must be a way to not have them appear, they are distracting.
There are so many of these straight dashed lines running helter - skelter all over the maps froming rectangles, squares, triangles.

There is no associated right click info about any of them, so I dont see how they are useful at all.
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Re: Pink dashed Boundaries, cm93 maps, dont wish to view them

A right click --> object query will show information. Or a double-click.

Restricted Area is one object type for example

There are more. Really - take your time to read and understand the concept of vector chart objects.

And how make them visible (or hide them).
When you select all it might disturb. But in vector charts you are the cartography to some extend who can decide which information is interesting ( and/or required).

Do you the favor and read the manual.
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Re: Pink dashed Boundaries, cm93 maps, dont wish to view them

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A right click --> object query will show information. Or a double-click.

Restricted Area is one object type for example

There are more. Really - take your time to read and understand the concept of vector chart objects.

And how make them visible (or hide them).
When you select all it might disturb. But in vector charts you are the cartography to some extend who can decide which information is interesting ( and/or required).

Do you the favor and read the manual.
All I can find about this in the manual is this
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Boundaries

Plain normally just uses a dashed line, while the Symbolized version also uses triangles pointing into the area.
Here are my openCPN config settings. I know that this files has all the settings for the program. If I find a solution, I will post back. I do not want to see arbitrarily designated 'sea areas' boundaries, for me the relevancy is not necessary.

Code:
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Editing to show another odd double dashed pink line, which to me makes no sense.
This is part of a large rectangle, one side of the rectangle is single, they other side has double dashed lines. Clicking inside the inner and outer part of this double line brings up the same information.
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Old 05-09-2015, 14:31   #7
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Re: Pink dashed Boundaries, cm93 maps, dont wish to view them

I think it is all the stuff that starts with viz...and I think it is controlled that the block that has the all the check blocks in it. Try changing from Mariner's Standard to disabled and see if they go away. The challenge is finding the right one. I know it took me a bit to find the waring that said the depth data may not be correct, which seems to be every where in the Gulf of Mexico.

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Re: Pink dashed Boundaries, cm93 maps, dont wish to view them

sdwoney,

I really do not understand why you try to complicate your life editing config files.

Just go through the settings of the vector chart tabs and from there set up the chart as you would like.
As the manual states you can create your own set of visible objects enabling/disabling the features in marinerīs standard (or marinerīs choice - your choice)

All this is explained in the manual - you have the manual as well at hand via the "?"/help button.

The dashed lines are part of the S-57/S-52 standard when showing area objects.
What you canīt do is to change the rendering of an object to "no pink lines".
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I think it is all the stuff that starts with viz...and I think it is controlled that the block that has the all the check blocks in it. Try changing from Mariner's Standard to disabled and see if they go away. The challenge is finding the right one. I know it took me a bit to find the waring that said the depth data may not be correct, which seems to be every where in the Gulf of Mexico.

Take Care,
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Thanks, I went through ticking off one by one, I found there are 4 that need to be ticked off to get rid of all those pink lines.
They are
anchorage area
caution area
precaution area
restricted area

IMO, these designations are meaningless, anyway to me, as the entire are is one giant 'something area'.

Can anyone share what is supposed to be in Mariners standard?
Right now mine is a mess of clicked off and non clicked off items.
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Re: Pink dashed Boundaries, cm93 maps, dont wish to view them

Also the grey hashed line, tick off 'coverage'

Here is how it looks now, much clearer for me.
With just those 5 'areas' and now 'coverage' deselected.
And all other options are ticked on.
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Re: Pink dashed Boundaries, cm93 maps, dont wish to view them

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Thanks, I went through ticking off one by one, I found there are 4 that need to be ticked off to get rid of all those pink lines.
They are
anchorage area
caution area
precaution area
restricted area

IMO, these designations are meaningless, anyway to me, as the entire are is one giant 'something area'.

Can anyone share what is supposed to be in Mariners standard?
Right now mine is a mess of clicked off and non clicked off items.
Hi sdowney,

You say "these designations are meaningless, anyway to me, ...". But keep in mind that you are using a chart system that is not only designed for leisure sailors in small boats like me and (I take it) you, but also for commercial shipping. For the big guys chart-information like "caution area" and "restricted area" is (very) important. Not only in order to avoid "ships doïng things they really should not do" but also to avoid heavy fines for trespassing the rules that are attached to those specific areas.

Oh, and for the small boys like me and you it's always handy to know when you are entering a "MIPARE / CAT MPA" area. That's a Military Practice Area / Firing Practice Area.

For more info on the meaning of these indications see the following link:
CARIS S-57 ENC Object Catalogue

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Old 06-09-2015, 04:38   #12
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Re: Pink dashed Boundaries, cm93 maps, dont wish to view them

That is fine for big ships, but for me in a small 37 footer, the relevancy is not important. The screen becomes cluttered with too much detail. Information overload for my size boat. There is a lot of government-military-commercial activity here, so the entire sea is broken into many areas, so very many many crisscrossing pink lines.
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Re: Pink dashed Boundaries, cm93 maps, dont wish to view them

The mariner's standard is all of them. I would leave the areas you mentioned on. The reason is things like no anchor areas will not be shown. I also want to know where explosive dumping areas are. I give them a large berth. They are all of the Gulf. The other thing I saw is a restricted area for a hydrological survey. They were towing a one mile cable. I can't imagine what that would do if you got that thing caught on your boat. I am sure it is way underwater, but still. Also, if you somehow manage to do something wrong, having the warning turned off on your charts is not going to be a viable defense. IFAIK, commercial vehicles are still required to have paper charts on board. My suspicion is that the ability to turn off key information electronically is one of the reasons.

One handy thing to do is to create a set of the things you want to look at and turn them on. Then before finalizing your route, turn on the Mariner's Standard and make sure you aren't doing something you shouldn't be.

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Re: Pink dashed Boundaries, cm93 maps, dont wish to view them

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IFAIK, commercial vehicles are still required to have paper charts on board. My suspicion is that the ability to turn off key information electronically is one of the reasons.

Doug
The other way around: Commercial vessel are obliged to go for ENCs with SOLAS approved ECDIS (=chart plotter system) and vector charts.
This gradually depending on size and type of vessel.
With an ECDIS they can go without paper charts.
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Re: Pink dashed Boundaries, cm93 maps, dont wish to view them

You've got my sympathy.dwoodall. Of course there's a workaround that I use...
Here's an example of the Military Area, which, is pretty greedy as to staking territory.
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Still, "local knowledge" has me believing that while they are busy here a lot, they generally stick to just one of them and it's awfully important as they test torpedoes and run subs around in it...If you are tooling along at large scale, it's good to be aware just when you cross the boundary
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soo, what I've done is create a track by using the "right-click" function. "MoveBoatHere" while EnableTracking is ON. Then save the track with appropriate name in OpenCPN's layers folder. You can colour it and make it dashed or whatever in it's properties dialogue. You can also make it disappear in the route manager.
It's a bit of trouble and it's not "Good Practise", but if you are using cm93 charts, they are probably out of date anyways.

another messy one (not GoodPractise"however) it's tempting to get rid of is underwater cables. Ugly. Many disused. HOWEVER at the least keep the Beacon Special Purpose ON because these seem to be the signs on the beach that indicate where they are, even in a small craft anchorage
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