Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 10-02-2019, 12:00   #46
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Ottawa,Canada
Boat: Prout Snowgoose 37' Catamaran
Posts: 341
Re: OpenCPN Version 5 Beta Starts

Dirk,

I wonder if you are seeing the same thing I was:

I was seeing that on the edges of the mbtiles I was getting the higher zoom and in the middle the lower zoom. At first I though it was a problem, but I think it is just that the tiles for the higher zoom extend farther than your original polygon, so it looks "wrong", but in fact you only have the lower zoom within the polygon while some of the upper zooms go beyond.

Geoff.

Quote:
Originally Posted by LeaseOnLife View Post
It looks like many of us use SASPlanet to create the mbtiles charts. To demonstrate some of the issues, I made two small sample mbtiles, created with SASPlanet, showing Bing satellite imagery for zoomlevel 11-14: One for Pico, the other one for Faial, slightly overlapping.

See https://opencpn.org/flyspray/index.p...s&task_id=2456

Dirk
__________________

geoffr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2019, 13:23   #47
Registered User
 
Franziska's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Panschwitz, Germany
Boat: Woods Mira 35 Catamaran
Posts: 1,052
Re: OpenCPN Version 5 Beta Starts

Quote:
Originally Posted by bcn View Post
Would make sense with two chart sources of the same site on the two canvas.
Or different scales of the same region.

When synchronized then Autofollow should act on the two sides as well.
(to make things a little more challenging...)
Absolutely right. Good ideas.
__________________

Franziska is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2019, 13:23   #48
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Ireland
Posts: 214
Re: OpenCPN Version 5 Beta Starts

Hi Dave,


Quote:
Originally Posted by bdbcat View Post


re:

"The tactics plugin took a few attempts to install but made it on the third attempt."


Any obvious error report or other info on the failures to install?

The first few attempts to download and install again simply reinstalled the old version, built on 12-Jan I think. After restarting Firefox and downloading again I got the new one, I'm guessing the download was being cached somewhere. The vdr download had a subtly different name (_- replaced with -) after you rebuilt it so I'm assuming I immediately got the new version. So in short, I don't think it was an OpenCpn problem. Now I'll go and do some testing.

Cheers,

Aedan
AedanC is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2019, 13:26   #49
Registered User
 
LeaseOnLife's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: out cruising again, currently in Panama
Boat: Sailboat
Posts: 1,206
Re: OpenCPN Version 5 Beta Starts

Quote:
Originally Posted by geoffr View Post
Dirk,

I wonder if you are seeing the same thing I was:

I was seeing that on the edges of the mbtiles I was getting the higher zoom and in the middle the lower zoom. At first I though it was a problem, but I think it is just that the tiles for the higher zoom extend farther than your original polygon, so it looks "wrong", but in fact you only have the lower zoom within the polygon while some of the upper zooms go beyond.

Geoff.


Hi Geoff,
I agree with your analysis, when displaying a single chart. But when mbtiles overlap, and the second mbtiles has higher detail for a specific area, opencpn ought to use the higher detail mbtiles for that area, at least in quilt mode.

Even worse: Sometimes, in non-quilting mode, opencpn seems to switch back to the lesser detail mbtiles when I zoom in an overlapping area.

On the positive note, mbtiles support is great, and seeing so many others out there using it is even better

Dirk
LeaseOnLife is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2019, 13:30   #50
Registered User
 
Franziska's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Panschwitz, Germany
Boat: Woods Mira 35 Catamaran
Posts: 1,052
Re: OpenCPN Version 5 Beta Starts

MBtiles show land only in black. MBtiles seem not to show when OpenGL is off (completely black chart area).
Franziska is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2019, 13:33   #51
bcn
Registered User

Join Date: May 2011
Location: underway whenever possible
Boat: Rangeboat 39
Posts: 3,191
Re: OpenCPN Version 5 Beta Starts

Any special reason to go with OpenGL OFF?
bcn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2019, 13:41   #52
Registered User
 
Franziska's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Panschwitz, Germany
Boat: Woods Mira 35 Catamaran
Posts: 1,052
Re: OpenCPN Version 5 Beta Starts

Some folks have old computers ;-)
It was merely something I noticed when the MBtiles did not show up.
When I switched to OpenGL it worked.
Franziska is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2019, 13:48   #53
Registered User
 
Franziska's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Panschwitz, Germany
Boat: Woods Mira 35 Catamaran
Posts: 1,052
Re: OpenCPN Version 5 Beta Starts

Here a screenshot with the black land mass. A slight grey or brown would be more pleasant.

I like to add that I really like the new feature to be able to use MBtiles and be able to look at CM93 or others in parallel.

Beeing able to see the same area at two different zoom levels is wonderful.
Perfect would be the option to pan/autofollow in parallel and to be able to adjust the size of tge two different displays.

Awesome work everybody. THANK YOU! Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_20190210_214225.jpeg
Views:	43
Size:	109.2 KB
ID:	185629
Franziska is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2019, 13:58   #54
Registered User
 
LeaseOnLife's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: out cruising again, currently in Panama
Boat: Sailboat
Posts: 1,206
Re: OpenCPN Version 5 Beta Starts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Franziska View Post
Here a screenshot with the black land mass. A slight grey or brown would be more pleasant.

I like to add that I really like the new feature to be able to use MBtiles and be able to look at CM93 or others in parallel.

Beeing able to see the same area at two different zoom levels is wonderful.
Perfect would be the option to pan/autofollow in parallel and to be able to adjust the size of tge two different displays.

Awesome work everybody. THANK YOU! Attachment 185629
The black background looks like you worked with layers (navionics) but the basemap is empty. Not sure this is a opencpn problem, but more of an issue what got exported to mbtiles.
Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	Screenshot_20190210_155653.jpg
Views:	40
Size:	280.6 KB
ID:	185630  
LeaseOnLife is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2019, 14:03   #55
Registered User
 
LeaseOnLife's Avatar

Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: out cruising again, currently in Panama
Boat: Sailboat
Posts: 1,206
Re: OpenCPN Version 5 Beta Starts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Franziska View Post
...
Beeing able to see the same area at two different zoom levels is wonderful.
Perfect would be the option to pan/autofollow in parallel and to be able to adjust the size of tge two different displays.
...Attachment 185629
You can do autofollow on both screens/canvases. The new autofollow function is actually pretty neat. you move the canvas until the boat is where you want to keep it, hit the little boat icon, the red circle turns green, and opencpn moves the chart to keep the boat were you put it. Works on both active charts!
LeaseOnLife is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2019, 14:11   #56
Registered User
 
Franziska's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Panschwitz, Germany
Boat: Woods Mira 35 Catamaran
Posts: 1,052
Re: OpenCPN Version 5 Beta Starts

Great. Add manual pan in parallel :-)
Franziska is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2019, 15:29   #57
Registered User

Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: Orust Sweden
Boat: Najad 34
Posts: 2,306
Re: OpenCPN Version 5 Beta Starts

And the Autofollow look ahead mode is slightly changed as well. It's controlled by each screen menu bar.
It still keeps the boat 2/3 from the in front screen edge but now you can click or even drag the screen without loosing the autofollow function as long as the boat is visible. Once you release the mouse button the boat will return to it's 2/3 position after a short time.
Hakan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2019, 21:46   #58
Registered User

Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Baikal
Posts: 367
Re: OpenCPN Version 5 Beta Starts

It would be nice to add a quick switch of map canvases in the Chart Panel Options menu. Either Selecting saved Interface Templates from the drop-down list.
What do you think of this offer?
Baikal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-02-2019, 23:08   #59
Marine Service Provider
 
bdbcat's Avatar

Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 5,327
Re: OpenCPN Version 5 Beta Starts

Terry...


Display category is selected with the canvas options menu (Hamburger lower right).


Dave
bdbcat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-02-2019, 00:14   #60
bcn
Registered User

Join Date: May 2011
Location: underway whenever possible
Boat: Rangeboat 39
Posts: 3,191
Re: OpenCPN Version 5 Beta Starts

Quote:
Originally Posted by Baikal View Post
It would be nice to add a quick switch of map canvases in the Chart Panel Options menu. Either Selecting saved Interface Templates from the drop-down list.
What do you think of this offer?
"Map Canvases" = "templates"? You are thinking about a similar mechanism as fors chart groups?
__________________

bcn is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
enc, opencpn

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Smoky, rough, cold starts on Beta 60 HHNTR111 Engines and Propulsion Systems 19 06-09-2015 05:56
OpenCPN Version 2.2 Beta Test bdbcat OpenCPN 437 15-12-2010 20:17
OpenCPN Version 2.1.0 Beta bdbcat OpenCPN 1045 25-06-2010 11:09
OpenCPN Version 1.3.5 Beta Technical bdbcat OpenCPN 544 24-03-2010 11:34



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 21:50.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.