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Old 05-04-2011, 04:03   #121
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Re: OpenCPN Version 2.4 Beta Build 324

Pavel,

correct, these charts seems to have a bad standard. But look for yourself in this example: In MacENC it displays somehow without waiting several minutes for generating another file of 3 MB in SENC folder as OpenCPN does. It is the same chart 1R5MK029.000 tested here!

So I guess there is something wrong in the OpenCPN algorithm. I can't find out that because lack of my knowledges about vector charts.

BTW, in PolarView this chart displays nothing at all, only in MacENC it does!

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Old 05-04-2011, 05:30   #122
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Gerhard,
the question is whether we want to implement stuff that's breaking the standard. With some of the Dutch charts making some features work would mean breaking the display of other charts that actually are done according to the IENC & ENC standards. Probably not that good an idea.
Different products differ in what features they can display and we definitely don't suck that much in IENC area - I would bet we might be better than MacENC on Vltava in Prague for example

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Re: OpenCPN Version 2.4 Beta Build 324

Where is my boat .... ?

OpenCPN is really fantastic. OOups .... too fantastic .... My little notebook begins to be exceeded.

Thank you to all developers.

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Gilletarom,

you certainly forgot to launch several Dashboards as it is possible now to show not any chart piece anymore....

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Old 05-04-2011, 07:16   #125
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Re: OpenCPN Version 2.4 Beta Build 324 - Code Documentation

Hi Dave, Pavel et.al.

While trying to find my way around OpenCPN code I autogenerated some documentation which I found useful. In a hope that it will be of use to others, I placed it on the web, here: OpenCPN: Code Documentation

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I would bet we might be better than MacENC on Vltava in Prague for example
Correct, OpenCPN is better with Vitava in Prague, it shows nothing and even do not load the chart while MacENC shows finally garbage at all. Tested with 0_7SOUTO.000. Screenshot of OpenCPN not attached here because it was empty...

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Gilletarom,

you certainly forgot to launch several Dashboards as it is possible now to show not any chart piece anymore....

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Yes ... and so ...

And openCPN do not crash ...

Fantastic.
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Yes ... and so ...
And openCPN do not crash ...
Fantastic.
Fine, and here we are what the programmers want: No more charts, no navigation anymore...

You have certainly read the disclaimer of OpenCPN: Not intended for navigation!

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Correct, OpenCPN is better with Vitava in Prague, it shows nothing and even do not load the chart while MacENC shows finally garbage at all. Tested with 0_7SOUTO.000. Screenshot of OpenCPN not attached here because it was empty...

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Gerhard...
Sometimes it's a bit hard to stay sure, that we are both using the same program. By the way, Prague is a couple of kilometers down south

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Fine, and here we are what the programmers want: No more charts, no navigation anymore...

You have certainly read the disclaimer of OpenCPN: Not intended for navigation!

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Anyway, I can not navigate on the sea under the Golden Gate .... even in my dreams ... I do not know where is the boat!

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i tried to find downloads of plugins on the openspc.org page and they're listed as "soon". are they available elsewhere? particularly the google earth plug-in?

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The plugins are not yet available on opencpn.org. The last development version of GE plugin is attached to the release post in it's thread at Google Earth Plugin

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Re: OpenCPN Version 2.4 Beta Build 324

Transverse Mercator Crash...
Not in EVERY TM but in some.....Only mentioned in case it's important somewhere,sometime...
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here,I am in Canada's Gulf Islands...I'm about to click the ChartBar...
the furthest left,Largest scale...Note it has NO TM indicator...

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Ok,so what the heck.Better do all the easy stuff.Clean out,reinstall...
But no go.

Here's the header of that Crashing chart from my hexreader It's an original chart,read only.my highlights
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!Copyright 1996, NDI. All Rights Reserved..BSB/NA=TELEGRAPH HARBOUR AND / ET PREEDY HARBOU,NU=3477,RA=3604,3924,DU=254..KNP/SC=15000,GD=NAD27,PR=TM.. PP=-123.65469, PI= 0.50000,SP=UNKNOWN,7 SK= 0.00.. UN=METERS,SD=LNT,DX= 1.50,DY= 1.50..CED/SE=3477,RE= 347701,ED=11/10/95..VER/1.0..OST/1..IFM/4..REF/1,67,3854,48.9 .... "ETC..

I have found two so far that do this but I guess from OpenCPN log there will be more....Same symptom,same "TM"header.


here's some header from
one of the OK UTM charts in the chartbar displaying properly...

"!Copyright 1996, NDI. All Rights Reserved..BSB/NA=NORTH PENDER ISLAND TO / A THETIS ISLAND,NU=3442,RA=11745,8144,DU=254..KNP/SC=40000,GD=NAD27,PR=UTM.. PP=-123.00000, PI= 0.50000,SP=UNKNOWN,7 SK= 0.00.. UN=METERS,SD=LNT,DX= 4.00,DY= 4.00..CED/SE=3442,RE= 344201,ED=02/14/96 etc..."

Not a big deal,I can fix em.
Here's OpenCPN loading the Crashing charts in question...

10:45:57 AM: Chart projection is UNKNOWN, assuming Mercator: D:\CHARTS\347701.KAP
10:45:57 AM: Loading chart data for D:\CHARTS\347702.KAP
10:45:57 AM: Chart projection is UNKNOWN, assuming Mercator: D:\CHARTS\347702.KAP
10:45:57 AM: Loading chart data for D:\CHARTS\347703.KAP
10:45:57 AM: Chart projection is UNKNOWN, assuming Mercator: D:\CHARTS\347703.KAP

10:45:57 AM: Loading chart data for D:\CHARTS\347801.KAP
10:45:57 AM: Loading chart data for D:\CHARTS\347802.KAP

while the OKUTM chart looks like:

10:45:57 AM: Loading chart data for D:\CHARTS\344102.KAP
10:45:57 AM: Loading chart data for D:\CHARTS\344201.KAP
10:45:57 AM: Loading chart data for D:\CHARTS\344301.KAP
of course I have the windoze crashlog...
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Re: OpenCPN Version 2.4 Beta Build 324

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Your chart 347703 is strange. he header says 3477, which in my chart collection is a BSB file and not a kap. Your log is correct though, calling it 347703.kap.
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PR=TM..
My file state
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PR=TRANSVERSE MERCATOR
Where are all the "." in your header coming from?
Is this a chart that you have converted yourself? It is definitely different from my copy.
The "PR" field is very important to OpenCPN. I have never seen "TM" before in this field on any chart.
OpenCPN does not recognize "TM", hence the chart is classified as a Mercator, which leads to all the problems.

Apart from that, I can see some bad quilting with these old tmercs.
I have checked the Kiwi and Swedish charts and they seems to quilt, almost perfectly. I'll take another look later.

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Happy

Your chart 347703 is strange. he header says 3477, which in my chart collection is a BSB file and not a kap. Your log is correct though, calling it 347703.kap.

My file state

Where are all the "." in your header coming from?
Is this a chart that you have converted yourself? It is definitely different from my copy.
The "PR" field is very important to OpenCPN. I have never seen "TM" before in this field on any chart.
OpenCPN does not recognize "TM", hence the chart is classified as a Mercator, which leads to all the problems.

Apart from that, I can see some bad quilting with these old tmercs.
I have checked the Kiwi and Swedish charts and they seems to quilt, almost perfectly. I'll take another look later.

Thomas
Cagney,yes,it's my old CHS charts again!....the above is as my hex editor HxD has it from the original read-only kap charts I am using.... the dots are as it sees em.They have never been edited or remade.I wouldn't do that and then present 'em here as a "problem"-I'd just fix 'em!
I only mention here in case others have these too....

Anyways ok,to dump the dots in the header with ,say, IMGKAP:

!Copyright 1996, NDI. All Rights Reserved
BSB/NA=TELEGRAPH HARBOUR AND / ET PREEDY HARBOU,NU=3477,RA=3604,3924,DU=254
KNP/SC=15000,GD=NAD27,PR=TM.....etc

Here's a clue,maybe-the BSB accompanying the kap is :

!Copyright 1996, NDI. All Rights Reserved
CHT/NA=PLANS GULF ISLANDS ( BEDWELL HARBOUR TO ,NU=3477
CHF/GENERAL
CED/SE=3477, RE= 347701, ED=11/10/95
VER/1.0
CHK/3,347701,347702,347703
CGD/UNKNOWN
ORG/Nautical Data International Inc., 1 Military Rd., P.O. Box 127, Station C S
t. John's, NF, A1C 5H5, on behalf of: Canadian Hydrographic Service, 615 Bo
oth St., Room 237, Ottawa, Ontario, K1A 0E6

K01/NA=PLANS GULF ISLANDS ( BEDWELL HARBOUR TO ,NU=3477,TY=BASE,FN=347701.kap
K02/NA=PENDER CANAL,NU=3477,TY=INSET,FN=347702.kap
K03/NA=TELEGRAPH HARBOUR AND / ET PREEDY HARBOU,NU=3477,TY=INSET,FN=347703.kap

It's some kind of way they dealt with the harbour plans then.I have other CHS charts that have calibrated insets! and they actually work,too-I was afraid I might have to screw around to get em up in OpenCPN but no...it's odd that there's Mercator,TM and UTM all from 1996,isn't it?But that's as the paper charts were made.
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