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Old 26-05-2011, 16:06   #286
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Re: OpenCPN Internationalization ( i18n )

The latest Norwegian translation for 2.4.523 beta.
Community release (remove file extension .doc)
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Old 26-05-2011, 20:44   #287
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Re: OpenCPN Internationalization ( i18n )

Folks....

2.4.523 status:

523 did not get any updated or new localizations. Slipped off my list, sorry.

I have some updated files for 506, and a couple for 523.


I have received recent (506/523) files for:
NO
HU (new!)
IT
NL
TW


Bring your best 523 language files to the table now, please. We will have probably two more Betas before 2.5 Release, so at least one more chance to tweak the translations.

Thanks for all your help.
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Old 26-05-2011, 22:10   #288
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Re: OpenCPN Internationalization ( i18n )

Hello,

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2.4.523 status:

523 did not get any updated or new localizations. Slipped off my list, sorry.

I have received recent (506/523) files for:
NO, HU ,IT , NL , TW

Bring your best 523 language files to the table now, .... so at least one more chance to tweak the translations.
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Do not forget the latest version of the French file sent the 24/05. See the post #256 of this thread

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Old 26-05-2011, 22:48   #289
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Re: OpenCPN Internationalization ( i18n )

Hello,

I thought I had long provided the latest version of the language file Dasboard. But until the 240-523 version is still the first version that appears. But there was error on my part

Therefore, I add here that file in its second version.

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Old 27-05-2011, 14:27   #290
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Re: OpenCPN Internationalization ( i18n )

Swedish translation
A bunch of mo's and po's for version 2.4.523

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3084309/opencpn_sv_SE.zip

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Old 28-05-2011, 12:40   #291
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Re: OpenCPN Internationalization ( i18n )

Dutch language files for OpenCPN version 2.4.523 beta attached.
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Old 30-05-2011, 12:13   #292
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Re: OpenCPN Internationalization ( i18n )

Some small updates to the Hungarian language files, it now also includes the dashboard plugin. V2.4.523 (Remove the .doc extesion!)
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Old 30-05-2011, 13:53   #293
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Re: OpenCPN Internationalization ( i18n )

Hello, revised Italian translation for OpenCPN 523. Following strings appear not available for translation.

In Route Manager:

Extend Route
Split Route


In AIS Target Query:

MMSI:
IMO:


In AIS Target List:

S.


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Re: OpenCPN Internationalization ( i18n )

Hi all ...

I am still working on the German translation and have some difficulties.
Especially with the translation of the AIS types ... .

I also had a look at other translations and I fear that there will be incorrect translations which at least could provide a source of irritation ... !

In German there are mainly two types of buoys:
  1. Lateral buoys (port, starboard)
  2. Cardinal buoys (N,E,S,W)
So my first question is what exactly is the difference between a 'Beacon' and a 'Mark'?

Or how should the three different "versions" be translated:
  1. Card. N
  2. Cardinal N Beacon
  3. Cardinal Mark N
Second belongs to the short terms. In ais.cpp at line 296 following there are 4 times the term "Pref. Chnl". Isn't there the side (port/ starboard) missing? I do not exactly know where and how this terms show up but I guess they will not be very helpfull without the side information?

I searched/ googled a lot but was unable to find any listing of AIS terms/ standards other than in English.

So any help is very much appreciated!

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Old 01-06-2011, 02:37   #295
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A beacon is always a fixed structure (not a buoy).
A mark is usually a buoy.

The Preferred Channel issue is clearly a mis-sync between IALA and AIS terminology. I am sure they mean the same thing, but I have to see in real world an AIS-equipped mark "Preferred channel to starboard" and its AIS classification (I think it will be "Preferred channel, port hand"). They are not easy to see yet ...
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Re: OpenCPN Internationalization ( i18n )

Piotr ...

thanks for your answer ...
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A beacon is always a fixed structure (not a buoy).
A mark is usually a buoy.
Well the problem is that the general term for all these signs in German is "Schifffahrtszeichen" or in former days "Seezeichen".

To further differentiate them we divide them into 2 (general) categories:
  1. feste (I guess this is the same or close to "fixed structure")
  2. schwimmende (which means "swimming" like a buoy - not fixed to the ground)
So in case of a lighthouse there is no doubt that it is "fixed" (fest). But for Lateral and Cardinal signs both options are possible (it just depends on if it is fixed to the ground or swimming like a buoy).

Further more I found the following post at S-57 Terms 11 - 22 - Hydrographic Dictionary - IHO - IHO / OHI (third post from the top):
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I'm having a very difficult time with this set of terms. S-32 defines beacon as a "prominent specially constructed object forming a conspicuous MARK as a fixed aid to navigation... Also called day beacon or day mark." and mark as a "charted conspicuous object, structure, or LIGHT serving as an indicator for guidance or warning of a craft; a BEACON". The two terms seem to be synonymous.

Further evidence of that is in Bowditch where beacon is defined as a "fixed artificial navigation mark" and mark is defined as an "artificial or natural object of easily recognizable shape or color, or both, situated in such a position that it may be identified on a chart. A fixed artificial navigational mark is often called a BEACON. This may be lighted or unlighted." The only difference I can see between these two is that a mark could be natural!

In my mind, a mark is a daymark (unlighted) and a beacon is lighted or is a radio beacon. I realize that doesn't agree with either of the above authoritative documents.

If we agree that mark and beacon have essentially the same meaning, I would prefer not to have separate definitions for isolated danger beacon & isolated danger mark, lateral beacon & lateral mark, etc. Instead, I suggest we list the term as isolated danger beacon (mark), lateral beacon (mark), etc. and define it once instead of twice.
And there are also other definitions on the Web that are also more confusing:
beacon - definition of beacon by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.
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beacon
(Transport / Nautical Terms) a lighthouse, signalling buoy, etc., used to warn or guide ships in dangerous waters
Nautical Dictionary, Glossary and Terms directory: Search Results
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Term: daybeacon (n) Definition: A fixed aid to navigation, usually a piling, on which a daymarker is mounted. See Also: daymarker
Term: daymarker (n) Definition: A navigation symbol mounted on a daybeacon. See Also: daybeacon
I really would appreciate it if we could create our own definition (in the wiki?) of how the different terms are used or what's their meaning in a certain context of OCPN.
Otherwise translation will be some kind of lottery.

Or is there any "official" definition of the terms anywhere on the net? If so we could use this as a (translation) guide.

Thanks

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Re: OpenCPN Internationalization ( i18n )

A Somewhat Polished Polish Version for 2.4.523...
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Or is there any "official" definition of the terms anywhere on the net? If so we could use this as a (translation) guide.
Perhaps attached file helps a little (it's probably not up to date).
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Old 05-06-2011, 06:43   #299
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Perhaps attached file helps a little (it's probably not up to date).
Where did you get that !
Some of the French entries are ludicrous...
Our collective effort (see Gilletarom post) is better....
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See also here: http://reftool.risexpertgroups.org/reftool/masterdump/
(select srs_shiptype in upper field, click on "dump" and check results).
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