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Old 11-01-2013, 07:36   #16
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 3.1.1309 Released

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Gilletarom....

As I think more....

The Garmin entry in the drop box appears if the system contains the Garmin USB device driver, even if no Garmin USB device is present. Happens only on Windows, as there is no Garmin USB driver for linux and Mac.

I should be able to test for the Garin USB device, and remove the Garmin entry from the drop box if there is actually no Garmin USB device installed. I think very few people are using Garmin USB connected devices anyway, and it can be confusing if the device is a Garmin serial device.

Is anyone actively using Garmin USB direct connected GPS receivers, i.e. without USB-Serial cable or other such interface? They seem not common in boats, since BU353 style pucks are so cheap.... I have a hockey puck style GPS18, which of course does not support or need uploads. Maybe the Garmin 172?

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Dave, Right now I use com ports to connect to Garmin (172 on previous boat and 76 on the current one) They are in the cockpit and I use them to control the AP. They never crash. My next computer will not have a com port so will use USB to com. I can forsee upgrading the 76 to a usb only device with map capabilities. So would like to see that option remain.
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 3.1.1309 Released

Not a problem, just a note:
Garmin car gpses (Nuvis etc) require a so-called usb driver to access them as a "drive" for updating maps and to access sd cards in them .
This "driver" shows up in Oport dialoguebut they don't function as a gps. I don't think it's O's fault. It looks to me that Garmin puts it into the registry as a gps,the same-as and "right in there" with a Real usb gps....
Ignoring it is easy.
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Old 11-01-2013, 13:25   #18
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 3.1.1309 Released

Hi Dave,

I made a new install 3.1.1309 on win7 with cm93-2011.

With a new installation vector charts display category is set to "standard".

On standard setting rocks are not displayed !

Imagine a newbee with Opencpn uses cm93 with standard setting (or also base setting) the rocks are not displayed ! And even while using mariners standard with all options checked the rocks are not displayed if one touches the "r" by malchance.

please test these rocks and a wreck at: 39 02.2661 N 001 36.6188 E

(see 0,1 nm west and east)




please reread also post #55 here :

OpenCPN Version 2.6 Beta Build 1718


at least a new installation should start on "other" display category by default.
Or is this a bug which glitched in a while ago ?

I also never understood the logic of the dangerous "r" switch

Thanks for the great software I use since version 1.37 !
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 3.1.1309 Released

Yikes! good one, rik-lu ! Rocks were off by default for me, too.
("r" is a switch I've never used.)
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 3.1.1309 Released

Rik-Lu...

I think I agree with you on this. The "r" toggle is probably not a good idea unless we clutter up the screen with another annunciator to show its state.
I don't think we want to do that.

So, we shall remove the "r" toggle.

However, I think it best to leave the default vector chart setting to "Standard", in order to not overload the new users with mostly meaningless information.

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Old 12-01-2013, 00:54   #21
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However, I think it best to leave the default vector chart setting to "Standard", in order to not overload the new users with mostly meaningless information.
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....and as rocks and dangerous wrecks (UWTROC, OBSTRN, and WRECKS) are not meaningless information they should also be visible in "Standard" and "Base" setting by default.
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 3.1.1309 Released

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However, I think it best to leave the default vector chart setting to "Standard", in order to not overload the new users with mostly meaningless information.

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Hello Dave

Your point is well taken, but...

FWIW, we've had cases of French first users complaining on OpenCpn not showing details with vector charts...

There could be a warning (on the first use splash notice) telling users to set/review parameters before using vector charts
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Or why not simply emphasising new, and maybe old , users to carefully read the excellent wiki. Especially if using vector charts. What's discussed here is all exhaustively mentioned there, including the possible danger to toggle the "r" switch.

But I can agree to exclude the "r" switch. I've never used it but it's not unlikely to have it toggled by mistake.

/It's not my intention to sound didactic but the wiki is really great!
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 3.1.1309 Released

Hello Dave,

The command "Send to GPS" appears in the tab "Road" and in the tab "Waypoint", manager of roads and waypoint.

If a route exists, the command "Send to GPS" appears in the context menu of the waypoint route but not in the context menu of the road.

Is this intended or is this an oversight?
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Or why not simply emphasising new, and maybe old , users to carefully read the excellent wiki. ....

/It's not my intention to sound didactic but the wiki is really great!
Must take into account all those who can not remember the long list of keyboard shortcuts. I am one of those the.

On our boat, we often both. Just one of the two inadvertently presses the button "r" and the meaning of the chart changes.

Personally, I prefer the "r" is no longer active.
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 3.1.1309 Released

Hello Dave, Sorry to bother you

In the language file, there is the item: RenderHPGL: The '% s' command is not implemented.

We try to translate better. What is the meaning of "RenderHPGL"?

Thank by advance
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....and as rocks and dangerous wrecks (UWTROC, OBSTRN, and WRECKS) are not meaningless information they should also be visible in "Standard" and "Base" setting by default.
What appears in "Standard" and "Base" is regulated in an international standard, so I don't think we want to change that.
I have, for a long time, advised new users, who bothers to read the documentation, to start out using "Other". "Other" is also sensible to use in real navigation, inactivating a lot of shortcuts, that are hard to keep track of, and avoiding the risk that some essential features are hidden.

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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 3.1.1309 Released

Hi everyone,

Like some of you and because it is a matter of safety, I vote for the suppression of the 'R' toggle.

May I suggest, the addition of a new tab on the menu pointing to 'hot keys & shortcuts" of the usermanual.
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 3.1.1309 Released

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Must take into account all those who can not remember the long list of keyboard shortcuts. ....
... Just one of the two inadvertently presses the button "r" and the meaning of the chart changes.

Personally, I prefer the "r" is no longer active.
Looking into this page Vector Charts | Official OpenCPN Homepage I see that there is chance can easily cause failover "r" but also "L", "S" and "A".

For "T", there is a button on the iconbarr. It is immediately easy to repair. For the other shortcuts, if you do not know them, you must go to the options for correcting chance. It's too complicated.

In my opinion, must review all the keyboard shortcuts that can be obtained directly by a single key.
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Re: OpenCPN Beta Version 3.1.1309 Released

Hello,

Why 2 text options in the object list available for an Vectorial chart ?

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