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Old 13-10-2013, 08:58   #61
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Re: Need: Cheap, Daylight-Viewable Monitor

For Sale: Panasonic CF-VDL02 high-nit LCD monitor. New in box, includes all cables and power supply and sunshade, too. Best reasonable offer.

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Any new developments in Daylight View-able Monitors in the last 4 years ?
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Any new developments in Daylight View-able Monitors in the last 4 years ?
I'am using a Faytech touchscreen. Works very well and is a rigid construction in an alu housing. Available with VGA or HDMI. Here running on my Raspberry PI.
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Old 18-10-2017, 06:05   #64
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I'am using a Faytech touchscreen. Works very well and is a rigid construction in an alu housing. Available with VGA or HDMI. Here running on my Raspberry PI.
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7"-15", IP65, 8-36VDC, 7-24W, Resistive (some capacitive) Touchscreens(USB), 1000Nit, VGA or HDMI, $225-$590USD.

https://www.faytech.us/monitors/industrial-touchscreen/
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Old 18-10-2017, 06:51   #65
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Re: Need: Cheap, Daylight-Viewable Monitor

A cheeper but (to?) small monitor where you've to built your own chassis to make it waterproof.
https://www.adafruit.com/product/1287
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A cheeper but (to?) small monitor where you've to built your own chassis to make it waterproof.
https://www.adafruit.com/product/1287
But the Faytech screen is three times brighter and comes waterproof as standard.
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Re: Need: Cheap, Daylight-Viewable Monitor

Just a comment, for anyone who is just stsrting out with O - in my opinion, O needs a lot more screen real estate than a normal plotter. I find it practically useless on a 10" tablet. I would go for minimum 15" FHD screen, myself, and if you ever think you will use raster charts, 20". IMHO; YMMV.
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Just a comment, for anyone who is just stsrting out with O - in my opinion, O needs a lot more screen real estate than a normal plotter. I find it practically useless on a 10" tablet. I would go for minimum 15" FHD screen, myself, and if you ever think you will use raster charts, 20". IMHO; YMMV.
Could you say why you think so?

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A cheeper but (to?) small monitor where you've to built your own chassis to make it waterproof.
https://www.adafruit.com/product/1287
$145. vs. $270.

For $125 extra you are getting:

-1000 nits brightness vs 350
-USB touchscreen
-Full IP65 Waterproof enclosure
-wide input power 8-36V
-wide operating temperature range.
-waterproof speakers.
-Remote Control
-stylus
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The user interface isn't made for small screens. I guess that's why. This is my subjective impression, so YMMV. Commercial chart plotters are carefully designed for small screens, and work well within the limitations of how they represent data. O is more like using a paper chart, even with vector cartography. I love it, by the way. But I think you need a decently large monitor.
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Bit fiddly for planning routes but wouldn't go quite as far as ""practically useless" , I use a 10" xperia in the cockpit. It is possible to plan routes on a 10" tablet but usually I do it on a laptop then the routes get transferred over to a raspberry Pi & the Xperia. Actually, half the time there isn't a route planned, turn left, sail for a while, turn left again into the anchorage
Dockhead sails sometimes in some rock strewn Baltic waters so needs to zoom right in and go over the whole route, that would get a bit boring quite quickly on a small screen, I tend to go over the route on the laptop and then the navionics web app as a double check if there might be anything nav wise to keep an eye on.
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The user interface isn't made for small screens. I guess that's why. This is my subjective impression, so YMMV. Commercial chart plotters are carefully designed for small screens, and work well within the limitations of how they represent data. O is more like using a paper chart, even with vector cartography. I love it, by the way. But I think you need a decently large monitor.
Most commercial plotters have a smaller screen with a lower resolution.

The larger the screen the better of course. But the 10" Faytech I use has a nice screen in combination with OpenCPN and vector charts. I'am using it with a Raspberry PI with OpenPlotter. Has a wireless access point and an VNC server.

If I need a larger screen I use my Chromebook with VNC or a smaller one with my Samsung Phone. Chromebooks have no HD and run 14 hours on one battery charge.

The Faytech has two buttons on the front panel, so that you can easily change the light intensity. And look at the power consumption, only 10 watts.

The only problem is to find a spot where to fix the monitor.

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I was quite surprised this summer to find out that I could plan routes on my Samsung S4 Android with Opencpn. In fact I did that for the first half of the summer, but switched to a SurfacePro3 because that's where I wanted to use the routes. It was actually not difficult if you were patient.
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Rick, I s wondering how long you would put up with the S4. I found that a 13" screen is minimum I can use for real planning and work. That is mounted down below, using OpenPlotter to send data to a Huawei M3 on deck. Works well.
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The UI sucks on screens smaller than 10". On my 7" screen it is for example impossible to edit the properties of a waypoint as vital parts of the pop-up window are off screen and you can't get to them.

I keep meaning to open a thread about the UI on small monitors.........

It depends somewhat on the resolution of the monitor and I find that a high resolution 15 inch screen in OK but the 10" VGA 1024x768 monitor at the nav station sucks with raster charts. It is OK with vector charts.
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