Logbook Konni for OpenCPN

[phiggins]

What is the Sign field after the time field?

[phiggins]

I am running a simulator that feeds GPS and AIS messages to OpenCPN. The time on the GPS messages is in 2010. I have set the logbook preferences to use UTC time but all the entries are using the GPS time. Why?
See attached

[phiggins]

Also, if there is no GPS signal the log entries are Local time even though I have asked for UTC time in the preferences.

BTW When I am running the simulator with GPS times in 2010, OpenCPN creates its track data in present day UTC time which is correct.

[konni]

Hello Paul,

The strange Sign-column is used in the maintenance tab and is with a
short example explained in the help. Click there on Naviagtion and in the image in the Sign-Column.

UTC-Time is normally delivered by your GPS, so for the logbook UTC is
only available when GPS is on. If GPS is off, then the the date and time
from you computer is used.
You can check this, by open the GPS-window in OpenCPN-Options in
the GPS-tab. -See attached image-

RMC - Recommended Minimum Navigation Information 12
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11|
| | | | | | | | | | | |
$--RMC,hhmmss.ss,A,llll.ll,a,yyyyy.yy,a,x.x,x.x,xxxx, x.x,a*hh<CR><LF>
Field Number:
1) UTC Time
2) Status, V = Navigation receiver warning
3) Latitude
4) N or S
5) Longitude
6) E or W
7) Speed over ground, knots
8) Track made good, degrees true
9) Date, ddmmyy
10) Magnetic Variation, degrees
11) E or W
12) Checksum

When the logbook doen't show UTC (with running GPS), then it's maybe corrected by your GPS. But this shouldn't happen !

If loaded version 1.191 up on sourceforge with the corrected CVS.
- see image -

best regards
konni

[konni]

Hello Paul,

which simulator are you using ?

best regards,
konni

[konni]

Hello Paul,

i just tried VDR-Recorder, same positive result as with NMEA-Studio.

BTW Would KML-Export a usefull option ?

best regards,
konni

[phiggins]

konni,
Thanks for your response, this is a great program and I really appreciate it. I borrowed some of your code for my plugin.

The strange Sign-column is used in the maintenance tab and is with a
short example explained in the help. Click there on Naviagtion and in the image in the Sign-Column

When I click on Help nothing happens. I am at V1.191 .

UTC-Time is normally delivered by your GPS, so for the logbook UTC is
only available when GPS is on. If GPS is off, then the the date and time
from you computer is used.

I don't think this is true. OpenCPN is able to get the correct UTC time for its tracks even when the GPS time is some previous time. There must be a way to get it without the GPS.

which simulator are you using ?

Its one I wrote called AISTTM. It actually records both the AIS/GPS messages while running so you can replay it. I was replaying a script that comes with it that was created in 2010.

I was hoping your log messages generated while the script was playing had the same date/time as the track produced by OpenCPN. I have another program, C2GPXKML, that takes a SeacLear track and combines it with the SeaClear logbook to create a KML file so you can see your track with waypoints for the log events. Right now I use Seaclear to do this, see the attached kml file produced from SeaClear tracks and logbook. But I want to use your logbook and the OpenCPN track instead of SeaClear.

BTW Would KML-Export a useful option ?

The CSV file is alright long as you get rid of the line feeds, but I can program around that problem.
What would be really useful is to do what I do now with my C2GPSKML program : create a kml file combining the track and logbook entries to produce a kml file of your trip. See the attachment.

[konni]

Hello Paul,

When I click on Help nothing happens. I am at V1.191 .

i checked the installer, the helpfile is inside and works
for the logbook-help, please click in the logbook-buttonbar the rightmost button.

I don't think this is true. OpenCPN is able to get the correct UTC time for its tracks even when the GPS time is some previous time. There must be a way to get it without the GPS.

the logbook stores and displays the time in the format you select in options. But this is a one-way-ticket, you cannot switch the display of data you entered before between UTC and local.

the mainprg. stores the tracks allways in UTC.
when you select in the logbook UTC you are in line with the mainprg..

to get the logbook-entries in localtime, please select the local radiobutton and select the timezone you are in.
If you now merge the track- with the logbook-data in a kml-file
you could e.g. search for the trackname in the logbook (ask if there are
multiple) and you get the data.

Its one I wrote called AISTTM. It actually records both the AIS/GPS messages while running so you can replay it.

Did you take a look at the VDR-Plugin ? It does the same.

The CSV file is alright long as you get rid of the line feeds, but I can program around that problem.

In the Remarks columns are newlines allowed.

best regards,
konni

[phiggins]

the mainprg. stores the tracks allways in UTC.
when you select in the logbook UTC you are in line with the mainprg..

But when I select UTC in the preferences it is not displaying it as UTC time, its displaying the GPS time and they might not be the same.

to get the logbook-entries in localtime, please select the local radiobutton and select the timezone you are in.

BTW: the timezone can be a fraction of an an hour, eg: Newfoundland is -2.5. In fact it can be one quarter of an hour eg: +10.25

please click in the logbook-buttonbar the rightmost button.

That is what I do and nothing happens.

[bcn]

Originally Posted by phiggins

But when I select UTC in the preferences it is not displaying it as UTC time, its displaying the GPS time and they might not be the same.

GPS and UTC have at this moment a difference of 16 seconds (GPS is ahead), as there are no leap seconds applied to the GPS clock. In difference to UTC or in consequence to the local time.

[mikepeter451]

OK ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT OPENCPN I HAVE DOWNLODED EVERY VERSTION BUT ITS NOT WORKING ILL START IT AND WITH IN 1 MINIT I GET NOT RESPONDING THEN I HAVE TO RESTART MY COMPUTER ( NEED HELP)

[bcn]

Originally Posted by mikepeter451

OK ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT OPENCPN I HAVE DOWNLODED EVERY VERSTION BUT ITS NOT WORKING ILL START IT AND WITH IN 1 MINIT I GET NOT RESPONDING THEN I HAVE TO RESTART MY COMPUTER ( NEED HELP)

Mikepeter,

please open a thread of it's own for your problem.
We would like to know the OS your are working under.
It would be interesting to see your install logs and the actual log.
Clicking on help you can locate these file.

And you don't have to SHOUT. We hear you :-)

[phiggins]

I decided to add an option to ignore the time on my program because my problem with the time only occurs when I run my simulator. Attached is an example of the output using your logbook and the opencpn track.

Thanks for you help konni

[mikepeter451]

well im running version 2,3,1
the only way i can show you the log is like this ,if this helps

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[konni]

Hello Paul,

i added kml-export in the logbook with tracks, too.
i'll make some checks and upload it in the next days.

My solution works with unique tracknames only at the moment.

best reagrds,
konni