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Old 25-05-2013, 20:40   #1
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Gimballed..15 or 30 degrees?

The force 10 stove I ordered gives the choice of building the OK install ayea for a 15 or 30 degree swing. I was going to do 15. Am I making a mistake. Its not to late to decide on 30. What do you think?
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Old 25-05-2013, 20:52   #2
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Re: gimballed..15 or 30 degrees?

I don't think 15deg. is enough. Sometimes you look down into the galley and it looks like a trick illusion. The stove is horizontal (plumb) and the rail is in the water. It may only be 15deg. but maybe not. What is the disadvantage of going with the 30deg. job?
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Re: gimballed..15 or 30 degrees?

Thanks for the advice. Building the rear wall for 15 deg is around 18 inches back. Build for 30 deg is around 22 or 23, I can't remember exactly, the paper is on the boat. But it is a little bit that could be used for counter or more swing.
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Re: gimballed..15 or 30 degrees?

30

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Old 25-05-2013, 21:02   #5
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Re: gimballed..15 or 30 degrees?

Two 30's in a row...30 it is!

Many thanks...what's a few inches.
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Re: gimballed..15 or 30 degrees?

Most boats will see 20 degrees of heel quite often. 30 is a bit much but not out of the question for a momentary heel angle especially on a beam reach in gusty condtions. 15 degrees is way more comfortable and probably an angle of heel that will give you best performance unless it is an older design with narrow beam. I wouldn't plan on setting up the stove with 15 degrees as maximum heel, however.
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Old 25-05-2013, 21:55   #7
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Re: gimballed..15 or 30 degrees?

15 might be OK for a cat.

I personally think even 30 is barely enough for a mono, certainly below maybe 45 ft, but not everyone shares my enthusiasm for venturing into the galley to prepare hot food when it's blowing hooligans.

I'd think most people would still want to be able to heat drinks, though...

ON EDIT: It's not sufficient for the stove to be able to cope with the maximum steady state heel angle, or even the maximum momentary heel angle: when it's rough, the stove will swing past the latter angle when you drop into a trough, and you definitely don't want it running out of travel with a jerk when there's hot liquid in any container with an opening...
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Re: gimballed..15 or 30 degrees?

From a SCUBA diving stand point, diving compass' installed inside consoles are all angled to perform up to 30 degrees tilt; diving manufacturers' designs and recommendations. Stick with 30 degrees! Mauritz
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Re: gimballed..15 or 30 degrees?

I agree, 30 degrees. I've got an inclinometer on our boat (we call it the "Oh Sh*t-Ometer"), and in moderate to heavy conditions it often hits 30 degrees. If it goes there too often I reef, but we've used the gimballed stove plenty of times at 20+ degrees.
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Like Andrew, I think 30 might be too small for serious offshore work. Nothing worse than the catapult effect when your stove hits the stops while in full swing. It tends to throw food out of the pot and into the cuboards behind...
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Re: gimballed..15 or 30 degrees?

Unanimous. Funny, my wife and o were talking about conditions and plusses and minuses of each decision regarding the stove. She cooks really healthy food, and it tastes good. She told me to "post it on the forum". Glad I did, rt his does not even look like a question as there is only one answer.
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Re: gimballed..15 or 30 degrees?

You have to think that a gust when heeled at 15 can put you at 30. What is this going to do to a boiling pot (even if the pot itself is secured) or a tray in the oven?

If you need to restrict cooking times to reliably modest angles of heel in the open ocean, you're not going to have many hot meals offshore, I think.
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Re: gimballed..15 or 30 degrees?

Then you have to figure out how to stand there and cook at 30* heel.
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One problem at a time!

Although I have seen little teak wedges in cockpit and galley I suspect are helpful in this respect.
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Re: gimballed..15 or 30 degrees?

finishing up shortly, going to go with the 30 degrees. going to put in the engel fridge, know the 43qt front loading will fit the spot I have laid out, going to see if the 60 will fit, if so, I'm going to order that one, if not, the 43qt it is.
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