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Old 20-08-2011, 18:26   #16
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Not a new captain. Thought I vetted this one. He claimed to want and need to learn about sailing as he is a manager at west marine. Once underway just kept undermining me. He was disrespectful
Openly in front of people and inadequate with lines and fenders so I just tossed him
70 miles from home port.
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Old 20-08-2011, 18:33   #17
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As my GF has said to me, you can be right and sorry, or just keep your mouth shut (or words to that effect.)
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Old 20-08-2011, 18:42   #18
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Ok thanks for that. What role does your GF play on your boat?
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Old 20-08-2011, 18:43   #19
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First port of call, tell crew to pound dirt.

Second thing, his license doesn't mean squat, he was crew, so license is nothing.
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Old 20-08-2011, 18:46   #20
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Not a new captain. Thought I vetted this one. He claimed to want and need to learn about sailing as he is a manager at west marine. Once underway just kept undermining me. He was disrespectful Openly in front of people and inadequate with lines and fenders so I just tossed him 70 miles from home port.
You were much nicer than I was, the last crew couple I had to kick off were 1500 nm from their home. They were downright dangerous. Even telling them to shut up, sit down and don't touch anything didn't work, so they got the boot.
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Old 20-08-2011, 18:57   #21
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i got smart before leaving port--i told the crew i was "taking her 100 miles off shore." they ran like scalded doggies. i am glad i was able to avert a potential incident before the fact.
i think you done good.
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It has always been thus. Many a good tale has been told about a captain and his crew.
Folks that have left land and decided to live on the sea on their own boats are not known for playing well with others.
Trash that has washed down to the sea and has nothing better to do with the next three months then get on your little coffin shaped boat with a stick to be a servant may not be who you want to wake up next to.
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Old 21-08-2011, 09:45   #23
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Aha! the rest of the story . . . But in any case bringing a "stink potter" on a sailing vessel was the first mistake. And that would work also going the other way. Sail boaters have little or no clue how power yachts/sport fisherman operate their boats.
Please stop with the stereotypes. All this does is continue the war between sailors and power boaters. There are plenty of people who are knowledgeable with both sail and powerboats....if I can toot my horn, like myself and a number of other people I know.
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Old 21-08-2011, 09:52   #24
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there is a lot more in common between stink and rag than most like to believe--i have had and done both ....
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Please stop with the stereotypes. All this does is continue the war between sailors and power boaters. There are plenty of people who are knowledgeable with both sail and powerboats....if I can toot my horn, like myself and a number of other people I know.
A bit defensive there - - reality is reality, and there is no "war" between power boaters and sail boaters. They are just two quite different things that require different skill sets. It is quite unusual that one is well versed in the other. It can happen but is not usual. Just like bus drivers are not really into sports car driving and sports car drivers are not really well versed in driving buses. They are different and if one or the other thinks that their talent at one automatically qualifies them to be an expert at the other, you get problems. Just like what happened to the OP.
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He had an idea that he had "groping" rights as well.
At the first unwelcomed sexual advance you should have made for the nearest port and put the offender off. End of story. If he has to hitchhike home, that's his problem, not yours.

Continue the cruise without him, assuming you were not dependent on crew.

(and it never pays to be dependent on crew.)
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groping makes for swimmers instead of crew.....unless that groping is invited, is out of bounds.
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Had to turn around halfway to Mag Bay from Cabo San Lucas to put off a recalcitrant crew member. He had come highly recommended, good references and seemed to know his way around a sailboat.
Unfortunately, he was bi-polar and either forgot or didn't take his meds with predictable results. I was pissed that we had to lose the DMG up the coast but he was really a danger to himself and very untrustworthy on watch. Turned about and put him off with bus fare in Cabo.
Thank goodness my son made up the other member of the delivery crew and the two of us completed the delivery, albeit a couple of days late.
Best to take quick, positive action than let a situation go from bad to worse.
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See you just didn't ask the right person..... I one time had a crew on board drank all my wine first day, dropped her off on a dock gave her cab fee and money to take the train home.... Went on my sail happy....Too bad you had to terminate your cruise...
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Bad experience with crew may and often will result from poor crew managing skills of the captain.

It may sound rude and selfish, but when I am asked to lead, or put in the position of the driver, I will make it very clear up front and first that once the lines are cast, the job of the crew is to crew, not to command, discuss, or the likes.

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