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View Poll Results: What would the best chance of getting away be?
Beat into the wind to put as much distance between you and the coast s possible, while you listen to some cool music and pretend you're a action hero. 89 57.05%
Go paralell to the coastline and try to keep your distance while being beat up by the waves, just because you have a thing for self torture. 11 7.05%
Furl the sails and throw in the sea anchor, haul out the portable DVD-player and crawl back into bed with a cup of hot cocoa and watch "Titanic". 61 39.10%
I'm screwed, I'll inflate the liferaft and jump ship tightly hugging the EPIRB. 2 1.28%
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Old 31-08-2008, 09:19   #16
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Storm Tactics Handbook by Lin and Larry Pardey. Is an excellent Book/Video
that covers this situation from their first hand experience ... they are not armchair sailors. Enjoy.
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Old 31-08-2008, 11:15   #17
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I've never once hove to or simply waited for whatever the gods choose to throw at us - so it would be option 1 - and then whatever second option got me to where we were supposed to be going. But I would keep sailing.
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Old 31-08-2008, 11:24   #18
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As someone who is new to sailing, I don't feel qualified to answer that question. I am watching the responses with interest, though.

I *am* curious: how many of you have been in a situation similar to the one Hampus described? Let's say someone has full-time cruised for about five years...on average, how often might someone find him/herself in that kind of situation?
We've just done five years of 'summer cruising' spending a minumim of 6 month and a maximum of 12 months cruising each of those year. Plus lots of Ocean races over the 20 prior years.

Only ever once been on a close lee shore in storm conditions and then it was a calculated risk accepted to finish the race.

Never once been in this kind of situation cruising and fankly, you'd need to be an idiot to put yourself there with todays weather forecasting and the speed of modern cruisers.

IMHO you can plan to keep any leg of almost any voyage down to a manageable period, it just takes some info and forethought.

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Old 16-11-2008, 18:05   #19
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I'd choose option 1, try and beat farther off shore for as long as the crew and boat could handle it. Option 3 would be used once the crew is starting to get fatigued, only I would be using a jordan series drogue off the stern.

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1 followed by 3 with a bottle of whiskey to keep things real..... 3 would involve being hove to first with the anchor out second.
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Old 17-11-2008, 01:17   #21
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1 would be my preference but 4 could be the reality since to Admiral would be looking to kill me for getting us in that much of a discomfort zone. I would be trying to sneak away.LOL
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Old 17-11-2008, 08:03   #22
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I voted #3. I'm curious about those that voted #1 - do they really think it's possible/prudent to sail in 60G80 winds? Is 100 miles insufficient searoom? How far offshore is safe then?


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It would depend a lot on what kind of wave action you are getting. I would try, and distance myself from land. Sailing north or south would depend the geography of land, and length of storm. If the land is falling away then right there you are automatically distancing yourself.
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Just curious, but if you are on a lee shore, and you elect to use a series drouge, aren't you heading straight towards that shore, rather than maintaining your distance off? Wouldn't a sea anchor help you keep your distance off more effectivly?
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Old 17-11-2008, 12:55   #25
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I would put out a parachute anchor if the waves were 20-30 feet and breaking with 60-80 knots of wind- is a bit more than i want to sail with this kinda wave action, just sit and wait
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Give me a break you 60%ers.

You have some skills I never even thought of having.

The weather is severe with a wind of 60 knots, gusts reaching 80. Waves are around 20 feet, some even reaching 30 and breaking...


No one is going to be doing much "sailing"
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Therapy if you notice earlier it was stated the question was kinda a joke I answered 1 partially because it was funny but seriously, I would try to put as much distance between me and shore as was fesably possible and then go to option three.
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I would try to put as much distance between me and shore as was fesably possible and then go to option three.

This seems to be a common answer, but no-one has answered my question about how much is enough? 100 miles seems like plenty to me - am I underestimating what is needed?


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well Kevin it depends alot on the contour of the sea bed, duration of the storm, direction it is moving in, currents, exact location, size of boat, the boat's draft, how much the boat weighs at the time, type of sails, and many more factors; for example if you are in these conditions, the storm mentioned in the poll:
the wind is blowing due west,
currents are pushing you NW at 6knts.
,the storm is moving West by North West at 2mph.,
you are off the east coast of florida,
your boat is 49' with a draft of 20',
boat weighs 20,000lbs,
using brandnew sails of any type.
now with that in mind the coast of Florida slopes gradually away from land and in someplaces 100miles could still be relativly shallow and you could find yourself with only 30' of water under your keel compared to somewhere like Hawii where you may have almost 1,000' under you keel. So you see it really all depends on where you are.
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Get off shore is the name of the game. I figure that if I can beat into the wind, then I could certainly set a more comfortable close reach, eh?
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