Aussie Legal Hurdles (RTW) ???

[Wotname]

Originally Posted by Rustic Charm

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I've got to go start painting my boat now, so I'll find that other piece of legislation about answering questions later. The 'radio' requirement, I don't know the answer to from a Commonwealth angle. There are State requirements but I appreciate that's not what your asking.

Chris was mistaken, Chris does have to have a radio in his home waters but notes that MAST allows that radio to be a cheap 27 Mhz. It is unlikely but possible that Coastwatch still have a 27Mhz radio although presumably Police vessels do.

Regardless, Chris while having a sound boat and is happy to meet the minimum legal requirements is a bit silly when fitting a 27Mhz radio...

[Wotname]

Originally Posted by Rustic Charm

Chris is gonna find himself on Naru Island
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If the media is any guide, Chris will be OK now that Naru is following in the old East Germany footsteps

[Snowpetrel]

For some reason I reacall the EEZ at 200 nm or so from the baseline being important. Certainly 'they' wanted me to clear out and then back in when I sailed to the Australian Antarctic territory. As far as I know though sailing to Lord Howe keeps you inside the EEZ.

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[Wotname]

While one of Chris's sources of info is away painting, the hypothetical story moves on.

Chris has identified that the Quarantine Act and Navigation Act applies to the voyage and while Chris hasn't read the current Border Force stuff, Chris assumes as inward clearance is necessary for Quarantine purposes, an outward clearance is probably required even though the voyage is from Oz to Oz.

Chris has also rolled over on getting the boat on the Aussie Shipping register even though the boat is not departing Oz for a place outside of Oz. It may be transiting a place outside Oz (and one outside any other national waters) but isn't going to a place outside Oz. However this a mute point once Chris rolled on the registration papers.

However Chris is holding firm about not getting a passport as Chris can't believe that one is needed to travel from Oz to Oz without any intervening stops.

So what happened with Chris departed. First there was a hullabaloo with Customs when there wasn't a passport. They simply weren't going to issue a departure clearance. Chris argued the toss and kept asking them to substantiate their claim that one was needed. The poor Customs guy wasn't sure if Chris was right or wrong but couldn't remember exactly what the rule was or where it was to be found. He threatened to lock her up it Chris departed without a clearance and Chris threatened to sue him if he was wrong.

In the end, the Customs guy thought it was all too much bother and issued the clearance with a stern warning that should the voyage succeed, there would be trouble on re-entry. There main reason he capitulated was simple, Chris was clearing out on Friday afternoon of a long weekend and the Customs guy wanted to get to his own boat for a long weekend of fishing. Secondary, he thought there was a fair chance Chris wouldn't make it back either alive or without having to enter another country's port and the problem would be theirs, not his.

Now most of thought that Chris was male but of course, Chris is female. This shouldn't make a difference but in this case it has.

You see, Chris is pregnant although she didn't know it at the time. By the time she knew she was over half away round the world somewhere in the Southern Indian Ocean getting pushed along quite nicely in the gales south of 45S. There wasn't many options especially since she had limited radio equipment. She didn't believe popping the EPIRB was appropriate in the situation.

Chris is nothing if not tough .

Chris delivers her bouncing baby girl without too much bother and promptly names her Indian 'Rounder after the location of her birthplace and enters the information into the ship's log. We note that the baby was bouncing in many respects.

What happens at re-entry into Oz? There are now two persons on board, no paperwork for the second one (baby Indian), no passport for Chris although she can prove her identify and nationality.

Will the Customs guy accept the entry in the Once 'Rounders log as proof and reason for the additional person?

By the way, as luck (?) would have it, it was the same Customs guy doing the re-entry and again it was a Friday afternoon of a long weekend!

[Pelagic]

It all depends on how good the fishing has been

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by Wotname

Chris can supply that proof.
Chris has a photo Aussie drivers licence - in Oz, that is proof of identity and Chris has a Birth Certificate has proves citizenship.

Not if the dog ate it when his wife ran off with the other bloke.....

[Pelagic]

Seriously, Mamma Chris's triumphant return will be handled with Kidd gloves and a media frenzy.

Formalities will become exactly that.... Nothing..


Will make for an interesting movie..... What's a good name?

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by Pelagic

Seriously, Mamma Chris's triumphant return will be handled with Kidd gloves and a media frenzy.

Formalities will become exactly that.... Nothing..


Will make for an interesting movie..... What's a good name?

More likely mother and child will be shipped off pronto to Christmas Island.... media frenzy over child detention... mother and child separated ... child fostered to Indian couple in Grong Grong.... 5 years later mother still in detention.....

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by Wotname

A couple of points, Coastwatch is pretty thin in the air below 40S and Chris will only have a outward clearance if it is required under some law. As far as this thread goes, we haven't found a the law that requires such. It probably does exist but finding it hasn't been easy!

Secondly why does Chris have to give Coastwatch any answer! What law requires Chris to respond to an aircraft calling him or even to have a radio on board (apart from an EPIRB which is required once Chris is 2 miles out)

You reckon? New Zealand has the grand total of 6 Orions looking after a pretty big slab of ocean....
We were once in about 43* south about 100/150 miles west of the Chathams once, had an Orion appear from due south, came over at about zero negative feet and gave us the first degree... they don't miss much.... same same Oz down there , primary mission is fisheries stuff.....

[Pelagic]

Originally Posted by Pelagic

Will make for an interesting movie..... What's a good name?

Starter ideas for movie with plot Titles:

Baby is born at sea exactly 9 months after clearing out.....The Excise Trilogy.

Baby is born 13 month after non stop solo RTW.... The Mermen Sea.


Baby doesn't make it back....A dingy ate my baby!

[Wotname]

Originally Posted by El Pinguino

You reckon? New Zealand has the grand total of 6 Orions looking after a pretty big slab of ocean....
We were once in about 43* south about 100/150 miles west of the Chathams once, had an Orion appear from due south, came over at about zero negative feet and gave us the first degree... they don't miss much.... same same Oz down there , primary mission is fisheries stuff.....

Well yeah, the KIWIS might be around but the Aussies like warmer air...
Chris isn't fishing

[El Pinguino]

Originally Posted by Wotname

Well yeah, the KIWIS might be around but the Aussies like warmer air...
Chris isn't fishing

Neither was I

I think you will find the the RAAF Orions spend quite a bit of time south of the continent.....

[Wotname]

Originally Posted by Pelagic

Starter ideas for movie with plot Titles:

Baby is born at sea exactly 9 months after clearing out.....The Excise Trilogy.

Chris claimed she was "done over by Customs" on departure, Customs walla takes extended leave, goes fishing...

Orions scambled...

[StuM]

Originally Posted by Wotname

Now most of thought that Chris was male but of course, Chris is female. This shouldn't make a difference but in this case it has.

You see, Chris is pregnant although she didn't know it at the time.

You really are a stirring bugger aren't you

[julius222]

Chris...this is a wonderfull story.....
Please, please , please..
write it up and send it to bob and kay Norson at TheCoastalPassage..
They are wonderfull people (ex Ynaks, Now Queenslanders) who would love to publish a yarn like that in their online newspaper.

They will even pay for the story

I would love to read all about it.