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Old 13-12-2012, 08:04   #1
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Which Embedded Computer?

I rather like the looks of the ones from Stealth, for example:

Stealth Computer, Model: LPC-460 Standard - LittlePC Instant Quote Builder

Are there any others worth considering for a hard-wired ship's computer?
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Old 13-12-2012, 08:27   #2
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Re: Which Embedded Computer?

I think their base price is a bit high. I have had a Xenarc for a little over 2 years. I have a HDD but would probably go with a flash drive if I was doing over. They look to be the same machine. Also both of these machine are built for gamers on a mobile platform. There is absolutely no need to have a computer as fast as these can be made to run a navigation program. With a 2.4g processor and 4g of ram you can drag the charts to the other side of the world with no lag.
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Re: Which Embedded Computer?

Wow! those are really neat. I've built all of my PCs, I'm just techy like that. So, after looking at the link you provided, I thought Id "build" something similar. Here is what I came up with in the way of a 12 volt low power consumption system. (I am in no way associated with CompUSA) Before anyone decides to buy all these peices, please verify they are compatible for yourself. I will be double checking it also. Total cost------$353 everything you need ecxcept for the operating system

PCs are very simple to build

Thanks for the idea and the post!


Case $80
CompUSA.com | S-0112-DT | iStarUSA Compact Mini-ITX Enclosure

Board w/graphics $130
CompUSA.com | BOXDQ67EPB3 | Intel BOXDQ67EPB3 Socket H2 Desktop Motherboard

Porcessor, only 35watts $75
CompUSA.com | BX80623G640T | Intel Pentium G640T Processor

memmory $15
CompUSA.com | CT51264BA1339 | Crucial 4GB PC10600 DDR3 Desktop Memory Upgrade

Hard Drive $53
CompUSA.com | WD1600BPVT | WD Blue 160GB Sata Mobile Hard Drive
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Re: Which Embedded Computer?

What about solid state drives (SSD)? They aren't that costly. Would they be an improvement (and power saving) over conventional hard drives?
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Re: Which Embedded Computer?

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Wow! those are really neat. I've built all of my PCs, I'm just techy like that. So, after looking at the link you provided, I thought Id "build" something similar. Here is what I came up with in the way of a 12 volt low power consumption system. (I am in no way associated with CompUSA) Before anyone decides to buy all these peices, please verify they are compatible for yourself. I will be double checking it also. Total cost------$353 everything you need ecxcept for the operating system

PCs are very simple to build

Thanks for the idea and the post!


Case $80
CompUSA.com | S-0112-DT | iStarUSA Compact Mini-ITX Enclosure

Board w/graphics $130
CompUSA.com | BOXDQ67EPB3 | Intel BOXDQ67EPB3 Socket H2 Desktop Motherboard

Porcessor, only 35watts $75
CompUSA.com | BX80623G640T | Intel Pentium G640T Processor

memmory $15
CompUSA.com | CT51264BA1339 | Crucial 4GB PC10600 DDR3 Desktop Memory Upgrade

Hard Drive $53
CompUSA.com | WD1600BPVT | WD Blue 160GB Sata Mobile Hard Drive
I stopped building my own PC's (and stopped overclocking them ) about 10 years ago, when ready-made comps became cheaper than the cost of parts. That may not be the case with mobile PCs, so worth a look.
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Old 13-12-2012, 09:39   #6
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I think their base price is a bit high. I have had a Xenarc for a little over 2 years. I have a HDD but would probably go with a flash drive if I was doing over. They look to be the same machine. Also both of these machine are built for gamers on a mobile platform. There is absolutely no need to have a computer as fast as these can be made to run a navigation program. With a 2.4g processor and 4g of ram you can drag the charts to the other side of the world with no lag.
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The price seems to be about the same.
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Re: Which Embedded Computer?

Never played with one but these look cute

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Absolutely. Faster. Lower power less heat

I've built a number of marine PCs over the year. My latest is based around a mini itx. I prefer completely sealed fabless designs, the design is a bit more complex as a result. 12v powered.

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Wow! those are really neat. I've built all of my PCs, I'm just techy like that. So, after looking at the link you provided, I thought Id "build" something similar. Here is what I came up with in the way of a 12 volt low power consumption system. (I am in no way associated with CompUSA) Before anyone decides to buy all these peices, please verify they are compatible for yourself. I will be double checking it also. Total cost------$353 everything you need ecxcept for the operating system

PCs are very simple to build

Thanks for the idea and the post!

Case $80
CompUSA.com | S-0112-DT | iStarUSA Compact Mini-ITX Enclosure

Board w/graphics $130
CompUSA.com | BOXDQ67EPB3 | Intel BOXDQ67EPB3 Socket H2 Desktop Motherboard

Porcessor, only 35watts $75
CompUSA.com | BX80623G640T | Intel Pentium G640T Processor

memmory $15
CompUSA.com | CT51264BA1339 | Crucial 4GB PC10600 DDR3 Desktop Memory Upgrade

Hard Drive $53
CompUSA.com | WD1600BPVT | WD Blue 160GB Sata Mobile Hard Drive
Power supply , why not go for the 12v ones. See mini box !

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Re: Which Embedded Computer?

I think you guys have Intel on the brain. For a better solution (i.e. better, faster graphics, lower power consumption, lower price) take a look at the AMD Fusion processors - specifically the E-350 and E-450. You can buy a motherboard (including combined CPU/GPU) for about $100 from Newegg, depending on supplier and features. If you intend to use this computer as a media machine (for displaying video on a TV for instance) then the GPU in the AMD will easily handle 1080p data; the Intel internal GPUs are famously disappointing in that regard.

To complete the system, use a mini-ITX 12VDC power supply and case from mini-box.com. Add memory, storage drive of choice, and OS of choice (including Windows 7 if desired) and you have a better computer for less than the above choices.

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Re: Which Embedded Computer?

I think we found the "Sailor-Nerds" group. myself included.
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Re: Which Embedded Computer?

mac mini, anyone?
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Re: Which Embedded Computer?

This is the Motherboard and processor that I am using to build my second boat computer. It has on board 8- 19 volt supply. I have found it for $100.
Intel DN2800MT Dual Core Atom N2800 Mini-ITX Motherboard | Cedarview
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Tim-

Did you read the note:

Please Note: Due to graphics driver limitations, Intel’s Cedarview-based mainboards are only fully supported in Windows 7 and Windows 8 32-bit operating systems. Logic Supply does not currently offer or support Ubuntu Linux and 64-bit operating systems for use with these boards. For more details, please see our FAQ.

You've got to be kidding. No Linux, no 64 bit. Now look at the AMD boards.

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http://www.mini-itx.com/store/. Is good place to buy what's available , its in the UK, there are similar sites elsewhere.

http://www.mini-itx.com/ itself is a great review site too

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