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Old 19-02-2014, 07:07   #16
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Re: What's your "blank slate" new electronics system configuration look like?

I would simply ask DockHead for all of his castoffs.... He has enough redundancy and changeover to keep any tech-nut happy...
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Old 19-02-2014, 10:27   #17
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Re: What's your "blank slate" new electronics system configuration look like?

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If I were going with all new stuff I would probably go with the B&G Zeus system.
Ok. I'll bite. Here's my attempt to configure a new B&G Zeus/Triton system;

B&G - System Configuration

Mast
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(One of)
000-10422-001 3G Broadband Radar Dome w/20M Cable
000-10423-001 4G Broadband Radar Dome w/20M Cable

SC20 Scanstrut Radome / Satcom Mast Mount
000-10312-001 ZG50 GPS Antenna

Cockpit
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Multi-Function Display (One of)
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000-10239-001 Zeus Z8 Multifunction Display
000-10242-001 Zeus Z12 Multifunction Display

Autopilot
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[000-10610-001 Triton Pilot Add-on System Low Current]
000-10611-001 Triton Pilot Controller
000-10612-001 AC12 Triton Pilot Computer
Micro-C Backbone Kit
[000-10619-001 Triton Pilot Add-on System High Current]
000-10611-001 Triton Pilot Controller
000-10620-001 AC42 Triton Pilot Computer
Micro-C Backbone Kit
RRF-ACP Rotary Sensor Feedback

PUMPLA11-12 Furuno Type I Linear AP Actuator (no B&G drive and this one seems like a more robust Type 1 linear drive than the Raymarine one..)

Instruments
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[000-10609-001 Triton Speed/Depth/Wind Package]
000-10607-001 Triton Digital Display T41
22098552 Transducer DST800 D/S/T Plastic 235KHz
000-10637-001 Wind Sensor
000-10647-001 20m Cable for Wind Sensor
Backbone Kit
000-10607-001 Triton Digital Display T41

Chart Table
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Multi-Function Display (One of)
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000-10239-001 Zeus Z8 Multifunction Display
000-10242-001 Zeus Z12 Multifunction Display

Radio
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None from B&G (maybe add 1 GX2200B Standard Horizon AIS/GPS GX2200 Fixed Mount VHF Radio?)

Networking
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Cabling, etc.

I'll admit that I don't know what the difference is between the low power and high power autopilots are. I'm also not sure if 2 Triton 41s are enough, or too many. Also if anything big is missing, etc. Please feel free to add your comments to this or any other system configuration..

Thanks,

Jason
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Old 19-02-2014, 10:39   #18
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Re: What's your "blank slate" new electronics system configuration look like?

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@Jasn - Purely out of curiosity, did you price out any of those all-new packages from Furuno & Raymarine?
As a matter of fact I did. Using the lowest price, (USD), that I could find for a US based reseller of these components, I came up with the following system prices;

Furuno System - 14k (includes the appropriate MFD rebate)
Raymarine System - 10k
B&G System - 9.9k

Now there's all kinds of caveats here. For example, I only priced 1 MFD, (at the helm), as I expect to use some type of WiFi access to the MFD, from some type of tablet when at the Navigation table. I also tried to pick either the 8" or 9" MFD, and go with the less expensive radar when pricing a system. (I'm using all of these assumptions because it's what I would pick for my boat..) Also there's some manufacturer specific caveats too. Furuno doesn't really have a current VHF that I could find, (FM-4000 seems discontinued), and I'm not sure I would use all of the displays that I listed from their recommended configuration page.

Anyway, it's window shopping.. (or maybe window shopping for geeks like me..)

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Re: What's your "blank slate" new electronics system configuration look like?

Ok. Here's my attempt at a Garmin - System Configuration

Mast
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(One of)
010-00959-00 GMR 18 xHD Radome with 15m Cable - Available 02/14
010-00960-00 GMR 24 xHD Radome with 15m Cable - Available 02/14

SC20 Scanstrut Radome / Satcom Mast Mount for GMR 18

010-01010-10 GPS 19x NMEA 2000 position receiver/antenna

010-11417-00-0183 Marine Heading Sensor Includes NMEA 10m Cable

Cockpit
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Multi-Function Display (One of)
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010-01016-00 GPSMAP 8008 MFD
010-01016-01 GPSMAP 8208 MFD w/US charts

010-11981-20 Marine Wi-Fi Adapter Kit

Autopilot
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[010-00705-40 GHP 12 Autopilot System]
010-01141-00 GHC 20 Marine Autopilot Control Unit
010-11053-30 GHP 12 Electronics Control Unit (ECU)
010-11052-30 GHP 12 Course Computer Unit (CCU)
010-11572-00 Class A Drive Unit for GHP 12

Instruments
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[010-01248-10 gWind Wind, Speed, and Depth Bundle - Available 02/14]
010-01227-00 gWind transducer - Available 02/14
010-01140-00 GMI 20 Marine Instrument
010-01226-00 GND 10 Black Box Bridge - Available 02/14
010-11051-00 Depth, Speed & Temperature Transducer - Airmar DST800
010-01140-00 GMI 20 Marine Instrument

Chart Table
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Multi-Function Display (One of)
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010-01016-00 GPSMAP 8008 MFD
010-01016-01 GPSMAP 8208 MFD w/US charts

010-11981-20 Marine Wi-Fi Adapter Kit

Radio
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010-00757-10 VHF 300 AIS
010-01146-00 GXM 52 SiriusXM Marine receiver

Audio
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010-01290-01 Meteor 300 Audio System with Speakers - Available 02/14
010-12119-00 Meteor 300 Docking Station
010-12118-00 Meteor 300 Remote

Networking
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Cabling, etc.

I'm not sure if this configuration makes sense or not. Comments are welcome. The new gWind Transducer, xHD radar, and Meteor 300, are targeted to be available by the end of this month.

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Old 19-02-2014, 18:05   #20
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Re: What's your "blank slate" new electronics system configuration look like?

I've installed a lot of different brands for people over the last thirty years. I remember when Furuno was it. Now I see a lot gimmicks like rotating from 2D to 3D, or laylines on the the displays. There is consolidation going on for a reason. It takes a lot infrastructure to be successful these days. If i were equipping a racing sailboat it would be Okam. For aviation it's Garmin. For the current refit of my personal sailboat it's Raymarine.

I think you need to start with the autopilot and radar and go from there. Since you can't control another brands radar with your MDF it makes sense to stay with one brand. Raymarine seems to have a larger variety of components to chose from, whether it be MDFs or autopilots options. This leads to a better fit to each boat, and leads to a larger network and repair base. They make good autopilots that I have faith in. You can argue whether their pilot is the best, but when you look at the total package I think they have the best overall value.

They all have problems from time to time, but I know if a Ray tech can't solve the problem for me then I can send it in and have a fast turnaround at a decent price if not free. If the hardware is out of date or unfixable Ray will usually offer to help out with a deal on newer replacement hardware. I really like how when they improve their software they let you upgrade it to your hardware for free. You will also find that you need less hardware with certain applications like wifi control or networking. From my personal experience Raymarine is the standard that everyone is trying to beat. Look past the gimmicks and view the total picture and I think you will find Raymarine has the best value at this time.

No I don't have any affiliation with Raymarine it's just my 2 cents worth.
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