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Old 26-11-2011, 12:09   #16
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Re: Understanding SSB

Thanks Bill

Too much fun !

Especially the moon bounce.

Stuck at home for now looking after 90+ mom with ALZ.

So mounted here at home by Niagara Falls for now.Transplant into boat soon.

Here's one close to me with no shipping-how come so cheap?

SI-TEX Radio SSB shortwave weather nav fax 200 Marine | eBay

I used to fly,private-was that SSB radio for air/ground ?

Guess I would like to have int. and sat. com. with weather.

Maybe I should buy the best with everything in -maybe two grand all in.

Any suggestions?

Maybe grab the close one on eBay to play with till I learn more?

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Old 26-11-2011, 12:30   #17
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So mounted here at home by Niagara Falls for now.Transplant into boat soon.

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Disclaimer... I'm not a ham (yet)

If you want to put it on your boat, you should consider a ham/marine SSB unit. These are different bands with different licensing requirements and different uses. A radio that will let you hit both of these bands will give you more utility in the future, but cost more. You may want to get a cheap used ham rig now to learn and later sell it on and get a more expensive combined rig that is suitable for your boat.
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Old 26-11-2011, 13:16   #18
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OK,now we are getting somewhere.

i like having all options open.Will look for a ham/ssb unit so have more utility in the future.

Would like to start with the best and work my way down.

Someone mentioned this-

Welcome to Yaesu.com

Seems nice and portable -is it ham and SSB? and UHF/vhf? Internet and sat/com?

Any suggestions for the best all in one?That can jump from home-car-boat-plane?

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Old 26-11-2011, 13:21   #19
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One point of clarification that will make your googling easier: Both ham and "marine SSB" use SSB which, as described in this thread is a way of communicating. Marine Band SSB is a band of frequencies similar to the ham band of frequencies which also use the SSB frequencies. There is a lot of confusing use of the same words to mean different things, so it'll take some reading to understand it all before you go out looking to buy something.
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Old 26-11-2011, 15:08   #20
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Have any of you guys ever mounted an SSB antenae on a ketch? I am stumped right now on where to put it.

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Have any of you guys ever mounted an SSB antenae on a ketch? I am stumped right now on where to put it.

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Well you can either use an insulated backstay - often to the main mast, or if you use a triatic and dont run back stays down, then a whip antenna off the stern. Whip antenna's may be 5 or 7 m long
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Well you can either use an insulated backstay - often to the main mast, or if you use a triatic and dont run back stays down, then a whip antenna off the stern. Whip antenna's may be 5 or 7 m long
Apparently the backstay technique still works, even on a split backstay, you isolate one of the split bottom sections from the top single stay and use the other side as the backstay antenna, isolated from the mast and the deck with insulators. I'm about to go through this, I just bought a ketch with a split main backstay and plan to add hf. Triatics are generally a bit short and it's hard to feed it, as your antenna effectively starts at the terminal on the ATU. I'm toying with the idea of using the entire mast as an antenna, either the main or the mizzen but insulating it from effective ground is non trivial in a steel or ferro hull.

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Re: Understanding SSB

G'day, mates. LoveMyWoodie asks, "Any suggestions for the best all in one?That can jump from home-car-boat-plane?" My 2 cents, the ICOM 706MarkIIG. Can even be used as standard marine VHF, just limit the watts to 25 when transmitting during non emergency transmissions. If your're not in a hurry, you can score one for around $500 USD. Cheers.
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Apparently the backstay technique still works, even on a split backstay, you isolate one of the split bottom sections from the top single stay and use the other side as the backstay antenna, isolated from the mast and the deck with insulators. I'm about to go through this, I just bought a ketch with a split main backstay and plan to add hf. Triatics are generally a bit short and it's hard to feed it, as your antenna effectively starts at the terminal on the ATU. I'm toying with the idea of using the entire mast as an antenna, either the main or the mizzen but insulating it from effective ground is non trivial in a steel or ferro hull.

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Well, that may be a bit radical - remember when transmittting you pump ~20+ Amps through it. Thats why the insulator is a little higher than deck level.
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Re: Understanding SSB

Here's one close to me with no shipping-how come so cheap?

SI-TEX Radio SSB shortwave weather nav fax 200 Marine | eBay

I used to fly,private-was that SSB radio for air/ground ?

Guess I would like to have int. and sat. com. with weather.

Maybe I should buy the best with everything in -maybe two grand all in.

Any suggestions?

Ahoy LMW,
This radio is a receiver, which can be had for even less. I bought an Asian model, you can find reviews of different SSB receivers, and tested it with weatherfax software on a laptop. It works and you can monitor voice traffic also. A transciever is much more expensive.
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