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Old 30-12-2010, 14:07   #1
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Programming the IC-M700Pro

I have an IC-M700Pro which has both a 9-pin serial connection and a clone jack on the back of the radio.

I'd like to use the ex2100.exe program to examine and possible adjust some of the parameters. Can I connect directly to the serial port, or do I have to buy the special OPC-552 cloning cable and connect to the cloning jack?

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Don,

AFAIK, you need the programming cable. The serial port is for remote operation, the cloning jack is for cloning.

It works great with the proper cable.

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Hi Bill:

Since you can use either the remote socket (RS232) or the clone jack for remote control, it seems like you should be able to use the remote socket for cloning as well. The only problem is that, per the documentation, "[t]he IC-M700PRO adopts NMEA0183 format and uses a 'proprietary sentence' for remote control. I've seen this mentioned on other sites, but still haven't found the syntax for the "proprietary" messages, or how they might be used for cloning -- which is just reading and writing configuration values. Or whether or not programs like ex2100 are already using this proprietary message format.

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I just found this on DF4OR: ICOM CI-V Information - Principles of operation

"Rigs with CI-V and serial ports
Some Icom rigs offer both, a CI-V connector and a RS-232 (aka V.24) port, for example the IC-R75, IC-R8500 and IC-7800. You can use either or both simultaneously. Protocol-wise the interfaces are identical, i.e. they talk the same language. Just that you don't need a level converter for rigs equipped with a RS-232 port. In fact, you can even use these rigs as level converters. What goes into one port (CI-V or RS-232) comes out to the other and vice versa. So if you have one of these rigs with RS-232 and another Icom rig only with CI-V, you don't need another level converter."

So it looks like it'll work. I need to buy another cable first, but will let you know how it goes.

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Looks like this should work on the 700pro as the same port on the cpu is used for both cloning and nmea data. This is not the case for the m710 and m802. In fact, the m802 uses the cpu in the remote head for cloning and the cpu in the transceiver for nmea. I believe I tried this on an m710 once but don't remember the results. I always use the clone jack but would be interesting to try it via nmea. With the m710 and m802 you can select via the set mode to do remote control via either the clone jack or the remote jack, so it may be doable. I have all these rigs so I'll put this test on my list to try when I have the time. Look forward to your results.

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Tried cloning operation with m700pro and m710 via remote jack. Didn't work on either one. Both work fine via clone jack. Didn't get around to the m802 yet.

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Hi Eric:

Thanks for checking. I don't have either cable yet, but have the OPC-552 on order, so I'll just use it once it gets here.

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Upon further investigation with the m700pro, I noticed that when trying a clone read using the remote jack, I get clone error in the ex2100 program, but the radio has in fact received the clone request and is sending the data, but only on the clone port. Same thing happens when doing a clone write. The radio is in clone mode waiting for data but the data has to be received over the clone port, not the remote jack. Still haven't checked the m802.

BTW, if you have some soldering skills, the required clone cable/circuit is easy to make with just a few parts

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