Cruisers Forum
 


Join CruisersForum Today

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
Old 12-12-2011, 15:38   #16
Senior Cruiser
 
delmarrey's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Now in Blaine, WA
Boat: Modified Choate 40
Posts: 10,702
Images: 122
Re: MULTI FUNCTION vs STAND ALONE

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boracay View Post
I can see how a good multi function could be cheaper, more space efficient and give a better result than stand alone.

I've gone with standalone on Boracay and from time to time I'm very aware of the deficiencies of each separate system. Maybe that's a good thing?

In particular, if you want to have an autopilot with input from a wind speed/direction sensor integrated may be the only way.

From my perspective standalone has several advantages:-
* Each part can be added separately so the cost can be spread out over quite a few years.
* As each component ages it can be replaced. As the multifunction ages components may become less and less available so that ultimatly the complete system may need replacing. Problematic on an older boat.
* Security. It's not hard to make each part of a standalone system removable. When I'm not on the boat key parts come home with me.

I'm currently considering installing one of the B & W GPS "plotters" (without a map), and a big display like the Furuno GP-32. I find it hard to make sense of a map and to steer at the same time, so a down below PC or plotter with maps may give me a better result. Needs another crew to keep watch though.
Garmins plotters can be set up so the cursor is alway pointed straight ahead. IAW the map turns around you, the North moves just like on the compass.
__________________

__________________
Faithful are the Wounds of a Friend, but the Kisses of the Enemy are Deceitful! ........
A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves!

Unprepared boaters, end up as floatsum!.......
delmarrey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2011, 16:14   #17
Senior Cruiser
 
colemj's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Presently on US East Coast
Boat: Manta 40 "Reach"
Posts: 10,049
Images: 12
Re: MULTI FUNCTION vs STAND ALONE

Quote:
Originally Posted by delmarrey View Post
Garmins plotters can be set up so the cursor is alway pointed straight ahead. IAW the map turns around you, the North moves just like on the compass.
This has been a feature on every set from every manufacturer since the mid-80's - not a Garmin specific feature at all. It's called "course up" mode.

Mark
__________________

__________________
www.svreach.com

You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.
colemj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2011, 16:22   #18
Senior Cruiser
 
colemj's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Presently on US East Coast
Boat: Manta 40 "Reach"
Posts: 10,049
Images: 12
Re: MULTI FUNCTION vs STAND ALONE

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boracay View Post
From my perspective standalone has several advantages:-
* Each part can be added separately so the cost can be spread out over quite a few years.
* As each component ages it can be replaced. As the multifunction ages components may become less and less available so that ultimatly the complete system may need replacing. Problematic on an older boat.
* Security. It's not hard to make each part of a standalone system removable. When I'm not on the boat key parts come home with me.
I'm not sure I understand your reasoning, and I don't think you understand MFD's. MFD, by their very nature, are mostly future-proof. Their entire function is simply to display data from standardized sensors regardless of manufacturer or sophistication. They can be added at will and at any time, mixed and matched in any combination, and any "upgraded" ones will be perfectly compatible with the older ones. Whenever a sensor or transducer fails or needs an upgrade, one can substitute at will from any manufacturer of choice and the old MFD will accommodate it just fine. And they are no harder to remove than stand alone systems. In fact, they are probably easier because their connection to the system consists of a single communication cable that can be hot unplugged/plugged without disturbing anything else on the system.

Mark
__________________
www.svreach.com

You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.
colemj is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2011, 16:28   #19
Senior Cruiser
 
delmarrey's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Now in Blaine, WA
Boat: Modified Choate 40
Posts: 10,702
Images: 122
Re: MULTI FUNCTION vs STAND ALONE

Quote:
Originally Posted by colemj View Post
This has been a feature on every set from every manufacturer since the mid-80's - not a Garmin specific feature at all. It's called "course up" mode.

Mark
My old Standard Horizon didn't. But I guess owning only one brand, since then, makes me ignorant.
Humm! Did they have chart plotters in the mid 80's. I was still using my RDF, Loran C. & dead recking.
__________________
Faithful are the Wounds of a Friend, but the Kisses of the Enemy are Deceitful! ........
A nation of sheep breeds a government of wolves!

Unprepared boaters, end up as floatsum!.......
delmarrey is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 12-12-2011, 16:52   #20
Senior Cruiser
 
colemj's Avatar

Cruisers Forum Supporter

Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Presently on US East Coast
Boat: Manta 40 "Reach"
Posts: 10,049
Images: 12
Re: MULTI FUNCTION vs STAND ALONE

Quote:
Originally Posted by delmarrey View Post
My old Standard Horizon didn't. But I guess owning only one brand, since then, makes me ignorant.
Humm! Did they have chart plotters in the mid 80's. I was still using my RDF, Loran C. & dead recking.
Predates even chart plotters - the "highway" mode on all the old ones was always course up.

Mark
__________________

__________________
www.svreach.com

You do not need a parachute to skydive. You only need a parachute to skydive twice.
colemj is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes Rate This Thread
Rate This Thread:

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Cetrek C2000 Multi to Ocean Upgrade jb.lagrange Marine Electronics 0 15-11-2011 04:35
Which Multi ? Johnathon123 Multihull Sailboats 19 05-10-2011 18:43
Mono vs Multi Still Hopefull General Sailing Forum 19 20-09-2011 07:41
Where Is RTK Function ? smart OpenCPN 2 14-08-2011 16:54
Is there a Function for Me to Save My Favorite Posts ? Johnathon123 Forum Tech Support & Site Help 2 09-07-2011 14:49



Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 11:08.


Google+
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Social Knowledge Networks
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.

ShowCase vBulletin Plugins by Drive Thru Online, Inc.