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Old 09-12-2014, 15:38   #16
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Re: MMSI

a64,
Here is a fairly detailed look at this subject, especially recent chnages...
FCC Radio Licenses and MMSI Numbers


Although you've gotten the answers here already....please be aware that this is one (of many) topics listed in the Sticky at the top of the page....it's an "index" with links and descriptions or a multitude of all things HF Radio, Communications, Weather, MMSI, EPIRB's, etc...

Please have a look....
Marine SSB Stuff (how-to better use / proeprly-install SSB, & troubleshoot RFI, etc.)


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Old 09-12-2014, 18:47   #17
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In case anyone else finds it useful, there's this link which is what I used when I got mine last year. Was a lot easier than a) paying someone ELSE to file for me, and b) trying to decipher it from scratch.

http://www.sandiegoanglers.com/index...tructions/file
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Old 10-12-2014, 07:35   #18
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Re: MMSI

OK,
So it boils down to I need to spend another $65 for the Restricted License?
Do they email me the MMSI, I assume the license comes in the mail? Is this like CG registration in that it can be months?
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Old 18-12-2014, 20:20   #19
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If memory serves, when I did mine, I was able to get my MMSI number at the end of the application. The actual certs were mailed, I rec'd both that, and my SSL in the mail a couple weeks later.

And to update my link above that apparently I can't edit... here's the updated location for the Walkthrough:

https://drive.google.com/viewerng/vi...STRUCTIONS.PDF
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Re: MMSI

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Yeah, well I just submitted for a SA ships license. I got charged $215.
$65 for a PASM whatever that is and
$150 for a PASR, again what is that?
Then I went to sign up for a "restricted operator" license, and that would be another $65.

WTH?

I can't find anywhere what a PASM or PASR is, I assume, hope that one of them is the ship and the other as me as the operator?

wow in the Uk the ships radio license ( if applied for online) is Free. If you want a civil servant to look at your hand writing, it costs 20
Its valid for the lifetime of the vessel
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Yeah, well I just submitted for a SA ships license. I got charged $215.
$65 for a PASM whatever that is and
$150 for a PASR, again what is that?
Then I went to sign up for a "restricted operator" license, and that would be another $65.

WTH?

I can't find anywhere what a PASM or PASR is, I assume, hope that one of them is the ship and the other as me as the operator?
Yes, the fees are outrageously high.

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OK,
So it boils down to I need to spend another $65 for the Restricted License?
You got it
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Do they email me the MMSI, I assume the license comes in the mail? Is this like CG registration in that it can be months?
No, they are very efficient once you give them your credit card number. As far as I can tell, that is the only "service" they provide.
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Re: MMSI

Update,
I got the ships license in the mail already, so that part is fast at least, That is how I got the MMSI number, I did not have anything until the mail came, just a $215 bill.
Restricted operator license is apparently another $65, bringing the total to $280. No pretext of me having to pass any kind of knowledge exam or required training or anything, just another tax.

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Old 19-12-2014, 07:38   #23
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Re: MMSI

I just went through this myself. The on line application is confusing so I called FCC and they sent me the instructions pasted below. Yes, you do need both, and yes, it is expensive. I felt more like I was buying licenses than applying for them.


The information you requested from the FCC can be found below in the body of the email.

If you have any questions contact us at

(877) 480-3201.

Thank You!



Case Id: HD0000002424252

Summary: Filing Instructions - Application

Solution Description: This article provides information on how to file an application for a new Ship Station license in the Universal Licensing System (ULS).

Steps to Filing an Application for a new Ship Station license:

Log in to https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsEntry/licManager/login.jsp with your FCC Registration Number (FRN) and Password

If you do not know the password, click on the Contact Tech Support link, and then click the Reset Password button to follow the prompts for resetting the password.

If you do not have an FRN, you will need to register for one here: https://apps.fcc.gov/coresWeb/regEntityType.do

Note: If you are taken to the My Applications page after logging in, click My Licenses to begin the steps below
Please refer to the online ?Help files or Common Questions if you need assistance with the application.

1. On the left side of the screen, click Apply for a New License
2. From the drop down box, select the Radio Service for the new license - Choose SA or SB- Ship
3. Click Continue to navigate through the application
4. Sign your application and click Submit Application by typing your first and last name in the name fields you have signed
your application
5. ULS will calculate the fees. Fees for online filing MUST be received within 10 calendar days of the filing.
6. Click the Continue For Payment Options button to choose the method of payment.

Further information regarding Ship Station licenses can be found at http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ind...=ship_stations

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When obtaining a ship station license for international voyages, the operator of the radio is also required to carry a Restricted Radiotelephone Operator Permit.


Steps to Filing an Application for a Restricted Radiotelephone Operator Permit in the ULS (Universal Licensing System)
Log in to https://wireless2.fcc.gov/UlsEntry/licManager/login.jsp with your FCC Registration Number (FRN) and Password

If you do not know the password, click on the Contact Tech Support link, and then click the Reset Password button to follow the prompts for resetting the password.

If you do not have an FRN, you will need to register for one here: https://apps.fcc.gov/coresWeb/regEntityType.do

Note: If you are taken to the My Applications page after logging in, click My Licenses to begin the steps below
Please refer to the online ?Help files or Common Questions if you need assistance with the application.

1. On the My License page click the Apply for a New License
2. Choose RR - Restricted Operator. Click Continue to navigate through the application
3. Click Continue to Certify
4. Sign your application by typing your name in the appropriate box
5. Submit your application
6. ULS will calculate the fees. Fees for online filing MUST be received within 10 calendar days of the filing
7. Click the Continue For Payment Options button to choose the method of payment

For further information regarding the Restricted Radiotelephone Operator permit, visit http://wireless.fcc.gov/commoperators/index.htm?job=rr

The Rules that govern the Restricted Radiotelephone Operator Permits can be found under 47 CFR - Part 13 and are accessible at the following website: http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/rule...tions-title-47


If you have any further questions, or need additional information, submit a request through http://esupport.fcc.gov or call the
FCC Licensing Support Center at (877) 480-3201.

Sincerely,

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Re: MMSI

In Australia, to get an MMSI (and even use a VHF radio) you need to:

1 Study for a radio certificate - free if you can find info or about AU$55 for an on-line course
2 Do the exam, cost from the agency that does it is AU$74
3 If you pass, then apply for MMSI from AMSA (Australian Maritime Safety Authority) - free

If you want to to use a HF radio, you need to do a different certificate exam to the VHF one (covers both) and then apply for a ship's radio licence - AU$52 for one year!!! Also, you cannot apply on-line, you need to fill out a form and mail with, get this, a cheque (check for you US people). I cannot remember the last time I had to write a cheque, probably 8 years.

I am amazed that things that make people safer are not free. MMSI and radio licences should not cost a cent.
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Just for a bit of fun you should try the change of owner/ change of home port procedure for an AMSA registered ship where the original owner has lost the paperwork. I thought my brain was going to dribble out my ears. Some of the procedures were dead set 19th century.




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