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Old 07-01-2010, 00:31   #1
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Marine SSB Licence?

I'm looking at getting my VHF licence here in Australia. Now for a tiny amount more money and a little extra study I can get my SSB licence as well.

Of course that'd mean that I would need a combination Marine SSB/ham radio.

Is a marine SSB licence any use in real life cruising?
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Personaly i would not head offshore without an SSB Transceiver, although the Ham side does not interest me to much...

Also as you may know, you do need the licence to operate a Marine SSB and i would recommend doing the course, you will learn more than is offered in the users manual...

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Is a marine SSB licence any use in real life cruising?
Yes and yes
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Do many people bother to get their VHF license these days? Is there much reason to?(assuming you already know radio procedures/etiquette). We don't have one, yet.
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You may find that you need the radio licence to obtain an MMSI number to register your EPIRB, AIS etc. My ICOM 802 SSB will not allow initial operation without the MMSI number entered. I am waiting for the next course in Hong Kong.
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The MMSI number is not issued with any reference to a radio license; but the use of devices such as VHF and SSB are generally not allowed without a license. The "SRC" for VHF and "LRC" for SSB are internationally accepted certificates and worthwhile getting, albeit a lot of the material and procedures in the course aren't really used in the real sailing world. Ultimately the radio licensing depends upon your boat's country of registration. In much of europe they have checks of boats and stiff fines if nobody aboard a vessel with functioning VHF/SSB has a valid license (regardless of whether or not it is being used). I learned that in Germany they've changed that requirement so that the master of the vessel must have a valid certificate for operating whatever radio is aboard. Then again, the Germans love their certificates and documents, so that shouldn't come as a complete surprise.In OZ "ACMA" regulates radio licensing and an SRC or LRC depending upon band is required (or a higher certificate) .

http://www.comlaw.gov.au/ComLaw/Legi...assLicence.pdf
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Do many people bother to get their VHF license these days? Is there much reason to?(assuming you already know radio procedures/etiquette). We don't have one, yet.
I would have thought so.

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You may find that you need the radio licence to obtain an MMSI number to register your EPIRB, AIS etc. My ICOM 802 SSB will not allow initial operation without the MMSI number entered. I am waiting for the next course in Hong Kong.
You 802 shouldn't require a MMSI for operation. Mine certainly doesn't. In Oz you can register an EPIRB without a MMSI
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Do any authorities in Australia actually check if people have radio licenses? I've never heard of this happening. We'd like to avoid more paperwork and fees if possible.

Our boat also comes with an 802.
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I'm looking at getting my VHF licence here in Australia. Now for a tiny amount more money and a little extra study I can get my SSB licence as well.
I'd definetely do it. I did the SRC certificate (VHF), and even the examiner said may as well do the 5 extra questions and get qualified for LRC (SW/SSB).

The multi-thousand-$ question of ssb vs satcom is a different issue (and thread)
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I obtained my VHF Ships Radio license for $60 filling fee simply for registering with the FCC. I had to provide contact info, ship info, registeration info for the vessel, etc. etc. then, I got a MMSI number, loaded it into my HX850S handheld (you only get one chance to do it right! ... then it has to be sent back to mfg to be cleared for entry of another number in case you sell it I guess) and now I have accountability and it's registered to me personally with all my information of who to contact in case the Distress goes off like a EPIRB transmission. Since it sends GPS info as well when activated, I have to be very careful about 'testing' it. LoL
It would appear from this 'license' issued by the FCC, that I can operate a ships radio aboard my vessel without a class 1 radio operators license.
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Do many people bother to get their VHF license these days? Is there much reason to?(assuming you already know radio procedures/etiquette). We don't have one, yet.
In Canada all VHF operators require the Restricted Operator's Certificate. Station licences are not required in Canada. One is highly recommended on international travel. It may be required in other countries.
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...My ICOM 802 SSB will not allow initial operation without the MMSI number entered.
The Icom 802 will work without a MMSI, but in order to use any of the DSC functionality you need to have a MMSI entered , that is what I've been given to understand.. I think that there is "grey" software out there for the M801 and M802 which allow resetting the MMSI (I have some for my 801 but haven't tried it yet since the MMSI is correct). I looked into getting a HAM license so that I could use all the frequencies that the SSB can access but that was a lot of work so I haven't gone that step yet, a fellow boater told me that with a HAM license one can use AirMail for free rather than the SSB non-HAM SailMail for an annual fee.
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..may as well do the 5 extra questions and get qualified for LRC (SW/SSB)....

I'd better move to Belgium. In the UK, I had to take a separate course lasting 4 days and costing >$1,000 for the LRC !

This is depite the fact I already had a VHF ticket and have been a ham since I was 18 y.o.

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I was surprised at how much "BS" one has to learn for the LRC - I don't have INMARSAT and having to practice typing in orders for ships stores and not forgetting to close them ("+++" or "nnn") was an exercise that I found particularly irksome when what I really wanted to know was how to use DSC on my SSB and how to choose frequencies.

Doesn't the HAM license allow you to use all SSB frequencies?
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Your ham license will only allow you to operate on the designated ham bands, except in a true emergency and there is no other reasonable option.
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