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Old 03-09-2016, 19:09   #1
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Ham Vs Marine SSB frequencies?

I was listening recently on my Icom 802 to a conversation. I was tuning using the freq knob like a ham radio. How can I determine what frequencies are Ham and which are included in Marine SSB. I don't want to talk on Ham Freq (no ham license yet). Is the a chart someplace? Do the allowed freq overlap at all?--Thanks
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Re: Ham Vs Marine SSB frequencies?

No they do not .
Download the Commercial (marine) Frequencies from multiple sources including Icom, ARRL, ITU, FCC, etc.

Look for HF Spectrum
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Re: Ham Vs Marine SSB frequencies?

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I was listening recently on my Icom 802 to a conversation. I was tuning using the freq knob like a ham radio. How can I determine what frequencies are Ham and which are included in Marine SSB. I don't want to talk on Ham Freq (no ham license yet). Is the a chart someplace? Do the allowed freq overlap at all?--Thanks
Marine SSB frequencies are channelized. See here for the marine SSB simplex channels.

Ham frequencies vary my country. For US frequencies see here.
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Re: Ham Vs Marine SSB frequencies?

The whole spectrum on one page... Marine is the blue bits.. The Radio Hobbyist: Worldwide shortwave bandplan

Didn't your radio come with a list of marine channels and their uses... ie ship to ship etc?
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Re: Ham Vs Marine SSB frequencies?

Thanks- I guess I'll make up my own chart from those provided sources so I have both Marine SSB and ham freq both on the same chart in ascending freq order.
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Re: Ham Vs Marine SSB frequencies?

Maine50,
First off, no the "marine" and "ham" bands, channels, frequencies do NOT overlap...


~~ The M-802 manual comes with detailed info on all the maritime channels...as well as a list of factory-provided "user-programmable" channels...
And, you can easily see which ones are "maritime" vs. "ham"...
BUT...


~~ But, since you were tuning in "VFO Mode", and you didn't mention what frequencies you were listening to, I have no idea what you were listening to...nor any way of telling you how to know!!
(this is why I'm always saying that those asking questions, provide more info...)


~~ The maritime mobile radio service ("Marine SSB") is an internationally allocated service, with all bands/channels the same in all countries...
{although some countries, like the US, also allow "shared, non-interference use" of other service's channels (such as "fixed service"), by maritime mobile stations}


~~ The amateur radio service ("ham radio") is also internationally allocated, but only some of these bands/frequencies are exclusive worldwide, and many countries have various ham band / frequency allocations, as well as ham radio license class and operating mode restrictions...


~~ I have no idea if you are in the US, are a US citizen, or are sailing a US-flagged vessel....but, with a name like "maine50", I will assume that you are in Maine and are talking about US ham radio allocations...so, that's what I will list here...as well as give you links to where you will find all the details...

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I was listening recently on my Icom 802 to a conversation. I was tuning using the freq knob like a ham radio. How can I determine what frequencies are Ham and which are included in Marine SSB. I don't want to talk on Ham Freq (no ham license yet). Is the a chart someplace? Do the allowed freq overlap at all?--Thanks
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Thanks- I guess I'll make up my own chart from those provided sources so I have both Marine SSB and ham freq both on the same chart in ascending freq order.
Not sure why you want a "chart", but here 'ya go...

Here are the US Amateur Radio Allocations ("ham radio" bands/frequencies)
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Regul...ambands_bw.pdf





And, here are the International Maritime Mobile Service channels....
http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/?pageName=cgcommsCall

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/?pageName=rtchansi

HF SSB Radiotelephone, Telex and Email Frequencies and Channels

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/?pageName=mtHighFrequency

SSB Nets & Frequencies

Distress-Safety

SSB Simplex Channels







HF Single Sideband Maritime Radiotelephone (Voice SSB) Channels



Simplex Channels These frequencies are shared and are not available for the exclusive use of any station. 4 MHz Band 6 MHz Band 8 MHz Band 12 MHz Band 4146 kHz 6224 kHz 8294 kHz 12,353 kHz 4149 6227 8297 12,356 6230 12,359 12,362 12,365

16 MHz 18/19 MHz Band 22 MHz Band 25/26 MHz Band 16,528 kHz 18,825 kHz 22,159 kHz 25,100 kHz 16,531 18,828 22,162 25,103 16,534 18,831 22,165 25,106 16,537 18,834 22,168 25,109 16,540 18,837 22,171 25,112 16,543 18,840 22,174 25,115 16,546 18,843 22,177 25,118





Global Maritime Distress & Safety System Radiotelephone (Voice SSB) Channels 2182 kHz 8291 kHz 4125 12,290 6215 16,420





4 MHz Duplex Channels ITU Channel No. Coast Transmit Ship Transmit 401 4357 kHz 4065 kHz 402 4360 4068 403 4363 4071 404 4366 4074 405 4369 4077 (WLO) 406 4372 4080 407 4375 4083 408 4378 4086 409 4381 4089 410 4384 4092 411 4387 4095 412 4390 4098 413 4393 4101 414 4396 4104 (WLO) 415 4399 4107 416 4402 4110 417 4405 4113 (KLB) 418 4408 4116 419 4411 4119 420 4414 4122 421 4417 4125 (Calling; distress & safety working on 4125 kHz simplex) 422 4420 4128 423 4423 4131 424 4426 4134 (USCG Weather, NOT monitored) 425 4429 4137 426 4432 4140 427 4435 4143 428 4351 (varies) 429 4354 (varies)

6 MHz Duplex Channels ITU Channel No. Coast Transmit Ship Transmit 601 6501 (kHz) 6200 (kHz)(USCG Weather, NOT monitored) 602 6504 6203 603 6507 6206 604 6510 6209 605 6513 6212 606 6516 6215 (Calling; distress & safety working on 6215 kHz simplex) 607 6519 6218 (WLO) 608 6522 6221



8 MHz Duplex Channels ITU Channel No. Coast Transmit Ship Transmit 801 8719 (kHz) 8195 (kHz) 802 8722 8198 803 8725 8201 804 8728 8204 805 8731 8207 (KLB) 806 8734 8210 807 8737 8213 808 8740 8216 809 8743 8219 810 8746 8222 811 8749 8225 812 8752 8228 813 8755 8231 814 8758 8234 815 8761 8237 816 8764 8240 (USCG Weather, NOT Monitored) 817 8767 8243 818 8770 8246 819 8773 8249 820 8776 8252 821 8779 8255 822 8782 8258 823 8785 8261 824 8788 8264 (WLO) 825 8791 8267 826 8794 8270 827 8797 8273 828 8800 8276 829 8803 8279 830 8806 8282 (WLO) 831 8809 8285 832 8812 8288 833 8291 8291 834 8707 (varies) 835 8710 (varies) 836 8713 (varies) 837 8716 (varies)



12 MHz Duplex Channels ITU Channel No. Coast Transmit Ship Transmit 1201 13,077 kHz 12,230 kHz 1202 13,080 12,233 1203 13,083 12,236 1204 13,086 12,239 1205 13,089 12,242 (USCG Weather, NOT Monitored) 1206 13,092 12,245 1207 13,095 12,248 1208 13,098 12,251 1209 13,101 12,254 (KLB) 1210 13,104 12,257 1211 13,107 12,260 1212 13,110 12,263 (WLO) 1213 13,113 12,266 1214 13,116 12,269 1215 13,119 12,272 1216 13,122 12,275 1217 13,125 12,278 1218 13,128 12,281 1219 13,131 12,284 1220 13,134 12,287 1221 13,137 12,290 (Calling; distress & safety working on 12290 kHz simplex) 1222 13,140 12,293 1223 13,143 12,296 1224 13,146 12,299 1225 13,149 12,302 1226 13,152 12,305 (WLO) 1227 13,155 12,308 1228 13,158 12,311 1229 13,161 12,314 1230 13,164 12,317 1231 13,167 12,320 1232 13,170 12,323 1233 13,173 12,326 1234 13,176 12,329 1235 13,179 12,332 1236 13,182 12,335 1237 13,185 12,338 1238 13,188 12,341 1239 13,191 12,344 1240 13,194 12,347 1241 13,197 12,350



16 MHz Duplex Channels

ITU Channel No. Coast Transmit Ship Transmit 1601 17,242 kHz 16,360 kHz 1602 17,245 16,363 1603 17,248 16,366 1604 17,251 16,369 1605 17,254 16,372 1606 17,257 16,375 1607 17,260 16,378 (WLO) 1608 17,263 16,381 1609 17,266 16,384 1610 17,269 16,387 1611 17,272 16,390 1612 17,275 16,393 1613 17,278 16,396 1614 17,281 16,399 1615 17,284 16,402 1616 17,287 16,405 1617 17,290 16,408 1618 17,293 16,411 1619 17,296 16,414 1620 17,299 16,417 1621 17,302 16,420 (Calling; distress & safety working on 16420 kHz simplex) 1622 17,305 16,423 1623 17,308 16,426 1624 17,311 16,429 (KLB) 1625 17,314 16,432 (USCG Weather, NOT monitored) 1626 17,317 16,435 1627 17,320 16,438 1628 17,323 16,441 1629 17,326 16,444 1630 17,329 16,447 1631 17,332 16,450 1632 17,335 16,453 1633 17,338 16,456 1634 17,341 16,459 1635 17,344 16,462 1636 17,347 16,465 1637 17,350 16,468 1638 17,353 16,471 1639 17,356 16,474 1640 17,359 16,477 1641 17,362 16,480 (WLO) 1642 17,365 16,483 1643 17,368 16,486 1644 17,371 16,489 1645 17,374 16,492 1646 17,377 16,495 1647 17,380 16,498 1648 17,383 16,501 1649 17,386 16,504 1650 17,389 16,507 1651 17,392 16,510 1652 17,395 16,513 1653 17,398 16,516 1654 17,401 16,519 1655 17,404 16,522 1656 17,407 16,525





18/19 MHz Duplex Channels ITU Channel No. Coast Transmit Ship Transmit 1801 19,755 kHz 18,780 kHz 1802 19,758 18,783 1803 19,761 18,786 1804 19,764 18,789 1805 19,767 18,792 1806 19,770 18,795 1807 19,773 18,798 (WLO) 1808 19,776 18,801 1809 19,779 18,804 1810 19,782 18,807 1811 19,785 18,810 1812 19,788 18,813 1813 19,791 18,816 1814 19,794 18,819 1815 19,797 18,822



22 MHz Duplex Channels ITU Channel No. Coast Transmit Ship Transmit 2201 22,696 kHz 22,000 kHz 2202 22,699 22,003 2203 22,702 22,006 2204 22,705 22,009 2205 22,708 22,012 2206 22,711 22,015 2207 22,714 22,018 2208 22,717 22,021 2209 22,720 22,024 2210 22,723 22,027 2211 22,726 22,030 2212 22,729 22,033 2213 22,732 22,036 2214 22,735 22,039 2215 22,738 22,042 2216 22,741 22,045 2217 22,744 22,048 2218 22,747 22,051 2219 22,750 22,054 2220 22,753 22,057 2221 22,756 22,060 2222 22,759 22,063 2223 22,762 22,066 2224 22,765 22,069 2225 22,768 22,072 2226 22,771 22,075 2227 22,774 22,078 2228 22,777 22,081 2229 22,780 22,084 2230 22,783 22,087 2231 22,786 22,090 2232 22,789 22,093 2233 22,792 22,096 2234 22,795 22,099 2235 22,798 22,102 2236 22,801 22,105 2237 22,804 22,108 (WLO) 2238 22,807 22,111 2239 22,810 22,114 2240 22,813 22,117 2241 22,816 22,120 2242 22,819 22,123 2243 22,822 22,126 2244 22,825 22,129 2245 22,828 22,132 2246 22,831 22,135 2247 22,834 22,138 2248 22,837 22,141 2249 22,840 22,144 2250 22,843 22,147 2251 22,846 22,150 2252 22,849 22,153 2253 22,852 22,156





25/26 MHz Duplex Channels ITU Channel No. Coast Transmit Ship Transmit 2501 26,145 kHz 25,070 kHz 2502 26,148 25,073 2503 26,151 25,076 2504 26,154 25,079 2505 26,157 25,082 2506 26,160 25,085 2507 26,163 25,088 2508 26,166 25,091 2509 26,169 25,094 2510 26,172 25,097





Maritime Channels Shared with the Fixed Service The following channels in the band 4000-4063 kHz and 8100-8195 kHz may be used: - for supplementing ship-to-shore channels for duplex operation; - for intership simplex (single-frequency) and cross-band operation; - for cross-band working with coast stations; - for duplex operation with coast stations working in the band 4438-4650 kHz or with Channels 834, 835, 836 and 837; - for ship-to-shore or shore-to-ship simplex operations (8100-8195 kHz only). 4 MHz Carrier 8 MHz Carrier Channel No. Frequency kHz Frequency kHz 1 4000 8101 2 4003 8104 3 4006 8107 4 4009 8110 5 4012 8113 6 4015 8116 7 4018 8119 8 4021 8122 9 4024 8125 10 4027 8128 11 4030 8131 12 4033 8134 13 4036 8137 14 4039 8140 15 4042 8143 16 4045 8146 17 4048 8149 18 4051 8152 19 4054 8155 20 4057 8158 21 4060 8161 22 -- 8164 23 -- 8167 24 -- 8170 25 -- 8173 26 -- 8176 27 -- 8179 28 -- 8182 29 -- 8185 30 -- 8188 31 -- 8191





I hope this helps...


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Re: Ham Vs Marine SSB frequencies?

Thanks all for all the info- I'm going to make a list of the freq ranges and who they are allocated to in sequence. It doesn't matter what frequency I was listening to, the question was whether there was a list (chart ) of the freq allocated to both Ham and Marine SSB. I just want to be able to look at 1 page and instantly know if I was listening to a Ham or SSB frequency. It's not more complicated than that. Thanks again for all who contribted.
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Re: Ham Vs Marine SSB frequencies?

El Pinguino- special thanks to you--your source is nearly perfect for what I was looking for.
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Maine50,
You're very welcome!
I'm glad we were able to help....
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It doesn't matter what frequency I was listening to, the question was whether there was a list (chart ) of the freq allocated to both Ham and Marine SSB. I just want to be able to look at 1 page and instantly know if I was listening to a Ham or SSB frequency. It's not more complicated than that. Thanks again for all who contribted.
Unfortunately, it is a bit more complicated than what you write....as we still don't know where you were at, nor what frequency you were listening to....and please understand that there are many more users of the HF spectrum than "marine" or "ham".
Aviation, Fixed, Land Mobile, various gov't agencies, military, etc. etc...

But, if all you wanted was a list of the "ham" and "marine" frequencies, I did post all of those in their entirety, above....just as you asked...


If the list was too detailed, how about this:

If you were listening to Voice communications from US hams, these are the only frequencies that you would have heard hams on:
1.8 - 2.0mhz
3.6 - 4mhz
7.125 - 7.3mhz
14.150 - 14.350mhz
18.110 - 18.168mhz
21.2 - 21.450mhz
24.930 - 24.890mhz
28.300 - 29.700mhz
As well as the 5 specific 60m channels (5330.5, 5346.5, 5357.0, 5371.5, 5403.5khz)


(as I wrote earlier, other countries have slightly different allocations, for various modes and license classes)

Ham radio operators can choose any freq within those bands (as long as their license class and nation allows their operation there), which is unlike the marine channels, which are specifically allocated channels, NOT just
using any frequency within the marine bands!!


If you were listening to voice communications on the maritime mobile service, the only frequencies would be the EXACT channels that I listed above....(sorry the list didn't post here in a orderly list, but I did include the links to the EXACT channels)

HF Single Sideband Maritime Radiotelephone (Voice SSB) Channels



Simplex Channels These frequencies are shared and are not available for the exclusive use of any station. 4 MHz Band 6 MHz Band 8 MHz Band 12 MHz Band 4146 kHz 6224 kHz 8294 kHz 12,353 kHz 4149 6227 8297 12,356 6230 12,359 12,362 12,365

16 MHz 18/19 MHz Band 22 MHz Band 25/26 MHz Band 16,528 kHz 18,825 kHz 22,159 kHz 25,100 kHz 16,531 18,828 22,162 25,103 16,534 18,831 22,165 25,106 16,537 18,834 22,168 25,109 16,540 18,837 22,171 25,112 16,543 18,840 22,174 25,115 16,546 18,843 22,177 25,118





Global Maritime Distress & Safety System Radiotelephone (Voice SSB) Channels 2182 kHz 8291 kHz 4125 12,290 6215 16,420





4 MHz Duplex Channels ITU Channel No. Coast Transmit Ship Transmit 401 4357 kHz 4065 kHz 402 4360 4068 403 4363 4071 404 4366 4074 405 4369 4077 (WLO) 406 4372 4080 407 4375 4083 408 4378 4086 409 4381 4089 410 4384 4092 411 4387 4095 412 4390 4098 413 4393 4101 414 4396 4104 (WLO) 415 4399 4107 416 4402 4110 417 4405 4113 (KLB) 418 4408 4116 419 4411 4119 420 4414 4122 421 4417 4125 (Calling; distress & safety working on 4125 kHz simplex) 422 4420 4128 423 4423 4131 424 4426 4134 (USCG Weather, NOT monitored) 425 4429 4137 426 4432 4140 427 4435 4143 428 4351 (varies) 429 4354 (varies)

6 MHz Duplex Channels ITU Channel No. Coast Transmit Ship Transmit 601 6501 (kHz) 6200 (kHz)(USCG Weather, NOT monitored) 602 6504 6203 603 6507 6206 604 6510 6209 605 6513 6212 606 6516 6215 (Calling; distress & safety working on 6215 kHz simplex) 607 6519 6218 (WLO) 608 6522 6221



8 MHz Duplex Channels ITU Channel No. Coast Transmit Ship Transmit 801 8719 (kHz) 8195 (kHz) 802 8722 8198 803 8725 8201 804 8728 8204 805 8731 8207 (KLB) 806 8734 8210 807 8737 8213 808 8740 8216 809 8743 8219 810 8746 8222 811 8749 8225 812 8752 8228 813 8755 8231 814 8758 8234 815 8761 8237 816 8764 8240 (USCG Weather, NOT Monitored) 817 8767 8243 818 8770 8246 819 8773 8249 820 8776 8252 821 8779 8255 822 8782 8258 823 8785 8261 824 8788 8264 (WLO) 825 8791 8267 826 8794 8270 827 8797 8273 828 8800 8276 829 8803 8279 830 8806 8282 (WLO) 831 8809 8285 832 8812 8288 833 8291 8291 834 8707 (varies) 835 8710 (varies) 836 8713 (varies) 837 8716 (varies)



12 MHz Duplex Channels ITU Channel No. Coast Transmit Ship Transmit 1201 13,077 kHz 12,230 kHz 1202 13,080 12,233 1203 13,083 12,236 1204 13,086 12,239 1205 13,089 12,242 (USCG Weather, NOT Monitored) 1206 13,092 12,245 1207 13,095 12,248 1208 13,098 12,251 1209 13,101 12,254 (KLB) 1210 13,104 12,257 1211 13,107 12,260 1212 13,110 12,263 (WLO) 1213 13,113 12,266 1214 13,116 12,269 1215 13,119 12,272 1216 13,122 12,275 1217 13,125 12,278 1218 13,128 12,281 1219 13,131 12,284 1220 13,134 12,287 1221 13,137 12,290 (Calling; distress & safety working on 12290 kHz simplex) 1222 13,140 12,293 1223 13,143 12,296 1224 13,146 12,299 1225 13,149 12,302 1226 13,152 12,305 (WLO) 1227 13,155 12,308 1228 13,158 12,311 1229 13,161 12,314 1230 13,164 12,317 1231 13,167 12,320 1232 13,170 12,323 1233 13,173 12,326 1234 13,176 12,329 1235 13,179 12,332 1236 13,182 12,335 1237 13,185 12,338 1238 13,188 12,341 1239 13,191 12,344 1240 13,194 12,347 1241 13,197 12,350



16 MHz Duplex Channels

ITU Channel No. Coast Transmit Ship Transmit 1601 17,242 kHz 16,360 kHz 1602 17,245 16,363 1603 17,248 16,366 1604 17,251 16,369 1605 17,254 16,372 1606 17,257 16,375 1607 17,260 16,378 (WLO) 1608 17,263 16,381 1609 17,266 16,384 1610 17,269 16,387 1611 17,272 16,390 1612 17,275 16,393 1613 17,278 16,396 1614 17,281 16,399 1615 17,284 16,402 1616 17,287 16,405 1617 17,290 16,408 1618 17,293 16,411 1619 17,296 16,414 1620 17,299 16,417 1621 17,302 16,420 (Calling; distress & safety working on 16420 kHz simplex) 1622 17,305 16,423 1623 17,308 16,426 1624 17,311 16,429 (KLB) 1625 17,314 16,432 (USCG Weather, NOT monitored) 1626 17,317 16,435 1627 17,320 16,438 1628 17,323 16,441 1629 17,326 16,444 1630 17,329 16,447 1631 17,332 16,450 1632 17,335 16,453 1633 17,338 16,456 1634 17,341 16,459 1635 17,344 16,462 1636 17,347 16,465 1637 17,350 16,468 1638 17,353 16,471 1639 17,356 16,474 1640 17,359 16,477 1641 17,362 16,480 (WLO) 1642 17,365 16,483 1643 17,368 16,486 1644 17,371 16,489 1645 17,374 16,492 1646 17,377 16,495 1647 17,380 16,498 1648 17,383 16,501 1649 17,386 16,504 1650 17,389 16,507 1651 17,392 16,510 1652 17,395 16,513 1653 17,398 16,516 1654 17,401 16,519 1655 17,404 16,522 1656 17,407 16,525





18/19 MHz Duplex Channels ITU Channel No. Coast Transmit Ship Transmit 1801 19,755 kHz 18,780 kHz 1802 19,758 18,783 1803 19,761 18,786 1804 19,764 18,789 1805 19,767 18,792 1806 19,770 18,795 1807 19,773 18,798 (WLO) 1808 19,776 18,801 1809 19,779 18,804 1810 19,782 18,807 1811 19,785 18,810 1812 19,788 18,813 1813 19,791 18,816 1814 19,794 18,819 1815 19,797 18,822



22 MHz Duplex Channels ITU Channel No. Coast Transmit Ship Transmit 2201 22,696 kHz 22,000 kHz 2202 22,699 22,003 2203 22,702 22,006 2204 22,705 22,009 2205 22,708 22,012 2206 22,711 22,015 2207 22,714 22,018 2208 22,717 22,021 2209 22,720 22,024 2210 22,723 22,027 2211 22,726 22,030 2212 22,729 22,033 2213 22,732 22,036 2214 22,735 22,039 2215 22,738 22,042 2216 22,741 22,045 2217 22,744 22,048 2218 22,747 22,051 2219 22,750 22,054 2220 22,753 22,057 2221 22,756 22,060 2222 22,759 22,063 2223 22,762 22,066 2224 22,765 22,069 2225 22,768 22,072 2226 22,771 22,075 2227 22,774 22,078 2228 22,777 22,081 2229 22,780 22,084 2230 22,783 22,087 2231 22,786 22,090 2232 22,789 22,093 2233 22,792 22,096 2234 22,795 22,099 2235 22,798 22,102 2236 22,801 22,105 2237 22,804 22,108 (WLO) 2238 22,807 22,111 2239 22,810 22,114 2240 22,813 22,117 2241 22,816 22,120 2242 22,819 22,123 2243 22,822 22,126 2244 22,825 22,129 2245 22,828 22,132 2246 22,831 22,135 2247 22,834 22,138 2248 22,837 22,141 2249 22,840 22,144 2250 22,843 22,147 2251 22,846 22,150 2252 22,849 22,153 2253 22,852 22,156





25/26 MHz Duplex Channels ITU Channel No. Coast Transmit Ship Transmit 2501 26,145 kHz 25,070 kHz 2502 26,148 25,073 2503 26,151 25,076 2504 26,154 25,079 2505 26,157 25,082 2506 26,160 25,085 2507 26,163 25,088 2508 26,166 25,091 2509 26,169 25,094 2510 26,172 25,097





Maritime Channels Shared with the Fixed Service The following channels in the band 4000-4063 kHz and 8100-8195 kHz may be used: - for supplementing ship-to-shore channels for duplex operation; - for intership simplex (single-frequency) and cross-band operation; - for cross-band working with coast stations; - for duplex operation with coast stations working in the band 4438-4650 kHz or with Channels 834, 835, 836 and 837; - for ship-to-shore or shore-to-ship simplex operations (8100-8195 kHz only). 4 MHz Carrier 8 MHz Carrier Channel No. Frequency kHz Frequency kHz 1 4000 8101 2 4003 8104 3 4006 8107 4 4009 8110 5 4012 8113 6 4015 8116 7 4018 8119 8 4021 8122 9 4024 8125 10 4027 8128 11 4030 8131 12 4033 8134 13 4036 8137 14 4039 8140 15 4042 8143 16 4045 8146 17 4048 8149 18 4051 8152 19 4054 8155 20 4057 8158 21 4060 8161 22 -- 8164 23 -- 8167 24 -- 8170 25 -- 8173 26 -- 8176 27 -- 8179 28 -- 8182 29 -- 8185 30 -- 8188 31 -- 8191


Please understand that ham radio operators can choose any freq within their allocated bands (as long as their license class and nation allows their operation there), which is unlike the marine channels, which are specifically allocated channels, NOT just using any frequency within the marine bands!!
And, this is why I listed the channels exactly....because they are specific channels, not just use any frequency in the band!!



Again, it is a bit more complicated than you write...
Fair winds...

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Re: Ham Vs Marine SSB frequencies?

Very comprehensive replays, BUT
warning in most countries & US is illegal to sell trancievers where transmitter working
across the listening range .
that means you need ham tranciever and marine tranciever ....unless..
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Re: Ham Vs Marine SSB frequencies?

Tikka,
I cannot speak for Australia, but this is NOT the case in the US....you can buy whatever transmitter/transceiver you like, but it is up to YOU to not transmit where you are not supposed to / up to YOU to obtain the appropriate licenses...
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warning in most countries & US is illegal to sell trancievers where transmitter working
across the listening range .
that means you need ham tranciever and marine tranciever ....unless..
I've purchased various transmitters for different services over the past 40 years, and there are no such restriction in the US...


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Old 05-09-2016, 05:29   #12
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Re: Ham Vs Marine SSB frequencies?

Maine50,
Please understand that there are many more users of the HF spectrum than "marine" or "ham".
Aviation, Fixed, Land Mobile, various gov't agencies, military, etc. etc...
This why knowing where you are located, what time-of-day, and what frequency you were listening to, are all important pieces of the puzzle...



But, in a nutshell...
If you were listening to Voice communications from US hams, these are the only frequencies that you would have heard hams on:
1.8 - 2.0mhz
3.6 - 4mhz
7.125 - 7.3mhz
14.150 - 14.350mhz
18.110 - 18.168mhz
21.2 - 21.450mhz
24.930 - 24.890mhz
28.300 - 29.700mhz
As well as the 5 specific 60m channels (5330.5, 5346.5, 5357.0, 5371.5, 5403.5khz)
(as I wrote earlier, other countries have slightly different allocations, for various modes and license classes)

Ham radio operators can choose any freq within those bands (as long as their license class and nation allows their operation there), which is unlike the marine channels, which are specifically allocated channels, NOT just using any frequency within the marine bands.


If you were listening to voice communications on the maritime mobile service, the only frequencies would be the EXACT channels that I listed....(sorry the list didn't post here in a orderly list, but I did include the links to the EXACT channels....and I'm going to try to post the list again in a different format...we'll see what happens!)


HF Single Sideband Maritime Radiotelephone (Voice SSB) Channels

HF Single Sideband Maritime Radiotelephone (Voice SSB) Channels

Simplex Channels

These frequencies are shared and are not available for the
exclusive use of any station.

4 MHz Band 6 MHz Band 8 MHz Band 12 MHz Band

4146 kHz 6224 kHz 8294 kHz 12,353 kHz
4149 6227 8297 12,356
6230 12,359
12,362
12,365

16 MHz 18/19 MHz Band 22 MHz Band 25/26 MHz Band

16,528 kHz 18,825 kHz 22,159 kHz 25,100 kHz
16,531 18,828 22,162 25,103
16,534 18,831 22,165 25,106
16,537 18,834 22,168 25,109
16,540 18,837 22,171 25,112

16,543 18,840 22,174 25,115
16,546 18,843 22,177 25,118


Global Maritime Distress & Safety System Radiotelephone (Voice SSB) Channels


2182 kHz 8291 kHz
4125 12,290
6215 16,420



4 MHz Duplex Channels

ITU Channel No. Coast Transmit Ship Transmit

401 4357 kHz 4065 kHz
402 4360 4068
403 4363 4071
404 4366 4074
405 4369 4077 (WLO)

406 4372 4080
407 4375 4083
408 4378 4086
409 4381 4089
410 4384 4092

411 4387 4095
412 4390 4098
413 4393 4101
414 4396 4104 (WLO)
415 4399 4107

416 4402 4110
417 4405 4113 (KLB)
418 4408 4116
419 4411 4119
420 4414 4122

421 4417 4125 (Calling; distress
& safety working on
4125 kHz simplex)
422 4420 4128
423 4423 4131
424 4426 4134 (USCG Weather, NOT monitored)
425 4429 4137

426 4432 4140
427 4435 4143
428 4351 (varies)
429 4354 (varies)


6 MHz Duplex Channels

ITU Channel No. Coast Transmit Ship Transmit

601 6501 (kHz) 6200 (kHz)(USCG Weather, NOT monitored)

602 6504 6203
603 6507 6206
604 6510 6209
605 6513 6212

606 6516 6215 (Calling; distress
& safety working on
6215 kHz simplex)

607 6519 6218 (WLO)
608 6522 6221


8 MHz Duplex Channels

ITU Channel No. Coast Transmit Ship Transmit

801 8719 (kHz) 8195 (kHz)
802 8722 8198
803 8725 8201
804 8728 8204
805 8731 8207 (KLB)

806 8734 8210
807 8737 8213
808 8740 8216
809 8743 8219
810 8746 8222

811 8749 8225
812 8752 8228
813 8755 8231
814 8758 8234
815 8761 8237

816 8764 8240 (USCG Weather, NOT Monitored)
817 8767 8243
818 8770 8246
819 8773 8249
820 8776 8252

821 8779 8255
822 8782 8258
823 8785 8261
824 8788 8264 (WLO)
825 8791 8267

826 8794 8270
827 8797 8273
828 8800 8276
829 8803 8279
830 8806 8282 (WLO)

831 8809 8285
832 8812 8288
833 8291 8291
834 8707 (varies)
835 8710 (varies)

836 8713 (varies)
837 8716 (varies)


12 MHz Duplex Channels

ITU Channel No. Coast Transmit Ship Transmit

1201 13,077 kHz 12,230 kHz
1202 13,080 12,233
1203 13,083 12,236
1204 13,086 12,239
1205 13,089 12,242 (USCG Weather, NOT Monitored)

1206 13,092 12,245
1207 13,095 12,248
1208 13,098 12,251
1209 13,101 12,254 (KLB)
1210 13,104 12,257

1211 13,107 12,260
1212 13,110 12,263 (WLO)
1213 13,113 12,266
1214 13,116 12,269
1215 13,119 12,272

1216 13,122 12,275
1217 13,125 12,278
1218 13,128 12,281
1219 13,131 12,284
1220 13,134 12,287

1221 13,137 12,290 (Calling; distress
& safety working on
12290 kHz simplex)
1222 13,140 12,293
1223 13,143 12,296
1224 13,146 12,299
1225 13,149 12,302

1226 13,152 12,305 (WLO)
1227 13,155 12,308
1228 13,158 12,311
1229 13,161 12,314
1230 13,164 12,317

1231 13,167 12,320
1232 13,170 12,323
1233 13,173 12,326
1234 13,176 12,329
1235 13,179 12,332

1236 13,182 12,335
1237 13,185 12,338
1238 13,188 12,341
1239 13,191 12,344
1240 13,194 12,347

1241 13,197 12,350


16 MHz Duplex Channels
ITU Channel No. Coast Transmit Ship Transmit

1601 17,242 kHz 16,360 kHz
1602 17,245 16,363
1603 17,248 16,366
1604 17,251 16,369
1605 17,254 16,372

1606 17,257 16,375
1607 17,260 16,378 (WLO)
1608 17,263 16,381
1609 17,266 16,384
1610 17,269 16,387

1611 17,272 16,390
1612 17,275 16,393
1613 17,278 16,396
1614 17,281 16,399
1615 17,284 16,402

1616 17,287 16,405
1617 17,290 16,408
1618 17,293 16,411
1619 17,296 16,414
1620 17,299 16,417

1621 17,302 16,420 (Calling; distress
& safety working on
16420 kHz simplex)
1622 17,305 16,423
1623 17,308 16,426
1624 17,311 16,429 (KLB)
1625 17,314 16,432 (USCG Weather, NOT monitored)

1626 17,317 16,435
1627 17,320 16,438
1628 17,323 16,441
1629 17,326 16,444
1630 17,329 16,447

1631 17,332 16,450
1632 17,335 16,453
1633 17,338 16,456
1634 17,341 16,459
1635 17,344 16,462

1636 17,347 16,465
1637 17,350 16,468
1638 17,353 16,471
1639 17,356 16,474
1640 17,359 16,477

1641 17,362 16,480 (WLO)
1642 17,365 16,483
1643 17,368 16,486
1644 17,371 16,489
1645 17,374 16,492

1646 17,377 16,495
1647 17,380 16,498
1648 17,383 16,501
1649 17,386 16,504
1650 17,389 16,507

1651 17,392 16,510
1652 17,395 16,513
1653 17,398 16,516
1654 17,401 16,519
1655 17,404 16,522

1656 17,407 16,525



18/19 MHz Duplex Channels

ITU Channel No. Coast Transmit Ship Transmit

1801 19,755 kHz 18,780 kHz
1802 19,758 18,783
1803 19,761 18,786
1804 19,764 18,789
1805 19,767 18,792

1806 19,770 18,795
1807 19,773 18,798 (WLO)
1808 19,776 18,801
1809 19,779 18,804
1810 19,782 18,807

1811 19,785 18,810
1812 19,788 18,813
1813 19,791 18,816
1814 19,794 18,819
1815 19,797 18,822


22 MHz Duplex Channels

ITU Channel No. Coast Transmit Ship Transmit

2201 22,696 kHz 22,000 kHz
2202 22,699 22,003
2203 22,702 22,006
2204 22,705 22,009
2205 22,708 22,012

2206 22,711 22,015
2207 22,714 22,018
2208 22,717 22,021
2209 22,720 22,024
2210 22,723 22,027

2211 22,726 22,030
2212 22,729 22,033
2213 22,732 22,036
2214 22,735 22,039
2215 22,738 22,042

2216 22,741 22,045
2217 22,744 22,048
2218 22,747 22,051
2219 22,750 22,054
2220 22,753 22,057

2221 22,756 22,060
2222 22,759 22,063
2223 22,762 22,066
2224 22,765 22,069
2225 22,768 22,072

2226 22,771 22,075
2227 22,774 22,078
2228 22,777 22,081
2229 22,780 22,084
2230 22,783 22,087

2231 22,786 22,090
2232 22,789 22,093
2233 22,792 22,096
2234 22,795 22,099
2235 22,798 22,102

2236 22,801 22,105
2237 22,804 22,108 (WLO)
2238 22,807 22,111
2239 22,810 22,114
2240 22,813 22,117

2241 22,816 22,120
2242 22,819 22,123
2243 22,822 22,126
2244 22,825 22,129
2245 22,828 22,132

2246 22,831 22,135
2247 22,834 22,138
2248 22,837 22,141
2249 22,840 22,144
2250 22,843 22,147

2251 22,846 22,150
2252 22,849 22,153
2253 22,852 22,156



25/26 MHz Duplex Channels

ITU Channel No. Coast Transmit Ship Transmit

2501 26,145 kHz 25,070 kHz
2502 26,148 25,073
2503 26,151 25,076
2504 26,154 25,079
2505 26,157 25,082

2506 26,160 25,085
2507 26,163 25,088
2508 26,166 25,091
2509 26,169 25,094
2510 26,172 25,097



Maritime Channels Shared with the Fixed Service

The following channels in the band 4000-4063 kHz and 8100-8195 kHz may be used in US waters, by FCC Licenses vessels:

- for supplementing ship-to-shore channels for duplex operation;
- for intership simplex (single-frequency) and cross-band operation;
- for cross-band working with coast stations;
- for duplex operation with coast stations working in the band 4438-4650 kHz or
with Channels 834, 835, 836 and 837;
- for ship-to-shore or shore-to-ship simplex operations (8100-8195 kHz only).


4 MHz Carrier 8 MHz Carrier
Channel No. Frequency kHz Frequency kHz

1 4000 8101
2 4003 8104
3 4006 8107
4 4009 8110
5 4012 8113
6 4015 8116
7 4018 8119
8 4021 8122
9 4024 8125
10 4027 8128
11 4030 8131
12 4033 8134
13 4036 8137
14 4039 8140
15 4042 8143
16 4045 8146
17 4048 8149
18 4051 8152
19 4054 8155
20 4057 8158
21 4060 8161
22 -- 8164
23 -- 8167
24 -- 8170
25 -- 8173
26 -- 8176
27 -- 8179
28 -- 8182
29 -- 8185
30 -- 8188
31 -- 8191


I hope this helps...

Fair winds..

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