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Old 17-03-2014, 14:33   #91
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Re: Ham Radio vs Marine SSB

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GOOD NEWS...


The USCG is aware of the issue with the erroneous info on their site and are working on fixing it (as of noon today, at least)...




Here are the two recent responses from the USCG....






So, it appears that they ARE working on the problem....give 'em a few more days and they should have it rectified...



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"Aware of the issue"? "Working to fix it"? Why, that's outrageous. That misinformation could conceivably cost some mariner his life. It should be pulled instantly. It's outrageously irresponsible. What kind of "working to fix it" is demanded to correct the text in one web page? Secretaries in my company are able to do that. It could be done in a matter of hours, if not minutes.
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Old 17-03-2014, 14:41   #92
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Re: Ham Radio vs Marine SSB

While I agree with 'ya 100%...
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"Aware of the issue"? "Working to fix it"? Why, that's outrageous. That misinformation could conceivably cost some mariner his life. It should be pulled instantly. It's outrageously irresponsible. What kind of "working to fix it" is demanded to correct the text in one web page? Secretaries in my company are able to do that. It could be done in a matter of hours, if not minutes.
The USCG is military....
Have you ever tried to get a military to use common sense, or for that matter have you ever tried to get some underling in the military to go against policy / against protocol???

Dockhead, if you know anyone in the USCG headquarters, PLEASE get in touch with them and let 'em know what's going on....all I have personal access to, are the Chief Petty Officers (and under)....
What we need is a USCG Captain or Admiral (in DC) to be made aware of this and it'll get done ASAP....
'til then, well it's the military.....you just wait and wonder!!



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Old 18-03-2014, 08:12   #93
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Re: Ham Radio vs Marine SSB

More good news...

This morning, I got another response from another person at the USCG, that said they are working on the problem and would be in touch with me directly. ("when" they'd be in touch directly, was not specified...)


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Good morning Mr. Macdougall,

Thank you for contacting the Coast Guard Navigation Center. We are in contact with our subject matter experts and are investigating the matter. Mr. xxxxxxx xxxx will contact you directly to provide assistance and to resolve the matter. We hope this addresses your inquiry. In our continuing efforts to provide high quality services to our customers,please let us know if this process fails to resolve these issues.
So, it appears that they ARE working on the problem....and I'm giving them a few days, and we'll see if it gets rectified...

More updates as needed...



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Re: Ham Radio vs Marine SSB

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Thank you for contacting the Coast Guard Navigation Center. We are in contact with our subject matter experts and are investigating the matter. Mr. xxxxxxx xxxx will contact you directly to provide assistance and to resolve the matter. We hope this addresses your inquiry. In our continuing efforts to provide high quality services to our customers,please let us know if this process fails to resolve these issues.
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Re: Ham Radio vs Marine SSB

I'm with 'ya Nick...

What really got me was the "subject matter experts"....
You know that old line about democracy being the worst form of gov't, except for all the others....

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Old 18-03-2014, 15:04   #96
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UPDATE....GOOD NEWS!!!

The problem has all been resolved/fixed!!!

Please visit this page now (and ignore the 2182khz info)
HF Distress Frequencies
DSC DISTRESS

And, be sure to read this page, which notified everyone of the USCG cessation of ONLY 2182khz voice and 2187.5khz DSC watchstanding...
http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pdf/marco...afetyAlert.pdf

But, please note that they still maintain ALL other HF-DSC watchstanding 24/7 on 4,6,8,12, and 16mhz DSC.....as well as HF-Voice watchstanding on 4,6,8,12, and 16mhz (depending on station and time of day)
HF Distress Frequencies


Just about 2 hours ago, I received a detailed e-mail from the USCG...with the news that the problem has been resolved....(almost)
(I'm redacting his name and direct dial phone #, but other than that, here it is...)

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Hello, Mr. MacDougall,

This is Xxxxxxx Xxxx, senior web developer and manager of the Navigation Center website.

First, thank you for your detailed message! And you are 100% correct, we messed it up.

I am not sure when or how, but that doesn't matter right now.
What matters is that we get it fixed. I found an archived page and posted it: http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/?pageName=cgcommsCall

Would you be so kind as to visit this page and see if it is as you remembered it?

Also, just to let you know, we are developing a notice that will go on every page having to do with 2182Khz, notifying people that we (the CG) are not guarding that frequency.

Again, thank you very much for your notice - we appreciate it tremendously.

I look forward to hearing from you soon.

Respectfully,
Xxxxxxx x xxxx
Chief, U.S. Coast Guard Navigation Center
Once they get the old listing of "2182khz" taken off of that page, it will be "back to normal"!!


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Old 18-03-2014, 16:04   #97
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Kudos to ka4wja for sorting this out.
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Old 19-03-2014, 15:43   #98
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Problem is solved!!!
The USCG has repaired the pages in question...

Have a look...

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/?pageName=cgcommsCall

http://www.navcen.uscg.gov/pdf/marcomms/2MHzDistressWatchkeepingClosureSafetyAlert.pdf


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UPDATE....GOOD NEWS!!!

The problem has all been resolved/fixed!!!

Please visit this page now (and ignore the 2182khz info)
HF Distress Frequencies
DSC DISTRESS
Still has the 2182 info at Radio Information For Boaters

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Procedure for Digital Selective Calling (DSC) Radio: DSC MAYDAY

Procedure for VHF Channel 16 MAYDAY:
  1. If you have an MF/HF radiotelephone tuned to 2182 kHz, send the radiotelephone alarm signal if one is available. If you have a VHF marine radio, tune it to channel 16. Unless you know you are outside VHF range of shore and ships, call on channel 16 first.
I'm sure that it's strewn through other pages too.
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Phantoms,
Try a refresh sir...
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Still has the 2182 info at Radio Information For Boaters

I'm sure that it's strewn through other pages too.
Because 2182 is NOT on the page when I click on that link....nor is on the other pages I've just looked at...



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Old 20-03-2014, 16:48   #102
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Re: Ham Radio vs Marine SSB

John, I don't know what you are looking at, but as of 18:46hrs Mar 20, 2014 it is definitely on that page (confirmed with 2 browsers, both refreshed).

Here is a screenshot of it:

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Phantoms,
Sorry I missed that reference, as it is under the heading of: "Procedure for VHF Channel 16 MAYDAY".....

I'll try again to let the USCG know there are other pages that need the 2182 removed from....
But, you ARE aware that I don't work for the USCG....so when I've got the time, I'll do my best to help....


BTW, this is some thread drift, huh???


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No problem John. I was just pointing out that there are references to it elsewhere. I do understand that it will take some time to vet them all out and I'm in no way blaming anyone for anything.

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2182 is discontinued from US GOVERNMENT monotering.

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