Difference between B&G Zeus Touch and Zeus2?

[a64pilot]

OK, I ordered and received the charts Mark gave a link to, the CMap charts.
I inserted the chip in the plotter, and now what? I can select either the onboard Navionics and Insight charts, Manual as far as I can tell left out how to access charts on the chip?
I can use the plotter to find the chip and it tells me what folders are on the chip, but what do I do with that?
So, did I waste like $300 more on this thing and it won't work with the CMap charts as I am now afraid, or is the way to access the charts, left out of the manual?
Anybody now?


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[travellerw]

Originally Posted by a64pilot

OK, I ordered and received the charts Mark gave a link to, the CMap charts.
I inserted the chip in the plotter, and now what? I can select either the onboard Navionics and Insight charts, Manual as far as I can tell left out how to access charts on the chip?
I can use the plotter to find the chip and it tells me what folders are on the chip, but what do I do with that?
So, did I waste like $300 more on this thing and it won't work with the CMap charts as I am now afraid, or is the way to access the charts, left out of the manual?
Anybody now?


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I run C-Map charts in my Zeus2. My Zeus2 actually came with a C-Map card..

I install the card in the first card slot, then boot the plotter. About 10 seconds after fully booting it asks if I would like to use the inserted chart card. I say "yes" and it loads the charts.

Did you order a C-Map card that is compatible with your Zeus. Although the Zeus can use C-Map cards, I don't think every card is compatiable (but I could be wrong). I think they can only use C-MAP MAX-N / MAX-N+ cards. I know the C-Map site has a card selector to ensure you get the right card for your plotter.

[travellerw]

Originally Posted by a64pilot

OK, I ordered and received the charts Mark gave a link to, the CMap charts.
I inserted the chip in the plotter, and now what? I can select either the onboard Navionics and Insight charts, Manual as far as I can tell left out how to access charts on the chip?
I can use the plotter to find the chip and it tells me what folders are on the chip, but what do I do with that?
So, did I waste like $300 more on this thing and it won't work with the CMap charts as I am now afraid, or is the way to access the charts, left out of the manual?
Anybody now?


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Ok.. I'm guessing you mean this link
C-MAP MAX-N+ Wide NA-Y027 Gulf of Mexico and Central America for Navico

That card does indeed look compatible. Try booting the plotter with card installed first.

[a64pilot]

Link was what Dockhead recommended on post #44. I'd link to it but am on stupid slow Marina Wifi.
I did insert the card with plotter off, expecting a message similar to what you said, but got nothing.
I'm afraid this card isn't compatible, and I bet they won't take it back, usually things like data cards are not returnable.



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[travellerw]

Originally Posted by a64pilot

Link was what Dockhead recommended on post #44. I'd link to it but am on stupid slow Marina Wifi.
I did insert the card with plotter off, expecting a message similar to what you said, but got nothing.
I'm afraid this card isn't compatible, and I bet they won't take it back, usually things like data cards are not returnable.



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Yup, I'm pretty sure that card is compatible.

I think your best bet is to give B&G a call tomorrow. Even though some people bad mouth their support, I have found it to be good. I bet they will get you sorted quickly.

[a64pilot]

I've called them before buying the thing as I had questions on pole vs mast mounting and the whole FWCW thing. The guy I got on the phone had a very good understanding of Radar theory, which amazed me, he really understood the operating principle, not just connect the blue wire to the green one, so yes I've had good luck with support in the past.


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[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by a64pilot

OK, I ordered and received the charts Mark gave a link to, the CMap charts.
I inserted the chip in the plotter, and now what? I can select either the onboard Navionics and Insight charts, Manual as far as I can tell left out how to access charts on the chip?
I can use the plotter to find the chip and it tells me what folders are on the chip, but what do I do with that?
So, did I waste like $300 more on this thing and it won't work with the CMap charts as I am now afraid, or is the way to access the charts, left out of the manual?
Anybody now?


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Choose "Navionics".

I'm pretty sure that's just a menu glitch. Inherited from when Navionics was the only full detailed chart. The menu should say "Choose Chart Card" and "Choose Built-In Insight".

Probably.

Give it a shot.

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by travellerw

Yup, I'm pretty sure that card is compatible.

I think your best bet is to give B&G a call tomorrow. Even though some people bad mouth their support, I have found it to be good. I bet they will get you sorted quickly.

Their support is wildly variable in my experience.

I've had complete idiots, and had really superb people. Luck of the draw.

[Maika]

Originally Posted by a64pilot

OK, I ordered and received the charts Mark gave a link to, the CMap charts.
I inserted the chip in the plotter, and now what? I can select either the onboard Navionics and Insight charts, Manual as far as I can tell left out how to access charts on the chip?
I can use the plotter to find the chip and it tells me what folders are on the chip, but what do I do with that?
So, did I waste like $300 more on this thing and it won't work with the CMap charts as I am now afraid, or is the way to access the charts, left out of the manual?
Anybody now?


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Which Zeus do you have, and what software version?
If you have the Zeus Touch, I believe C-map is supported from v2. This is from the v2 addendum:
http://www.bandg.com/Documents/produ...language=en-GB

Selecting chart type
Chart type is now selected from the chart options menu, and the selection is set individually
for each chart panel.
If you have different chart types available - embedded, in the SD card slot or on the Ethernet -
you can show two different chart types simultaneously in a split screen.

Note:
To show C-Map charts, you need to select Insight chart type in the menu.
If Insight chart is embedded and you have a C-MAP card in the slot or on the Ethernet
network, the system will automatically select the chart with most chart details for your
displayed region.
The same applies if you have two Navionics charts available.

If you are on v1, you will probably need to update your software from here:
Downloads
How to upgrade, se page 51 of the installation manual:
http://www.bandg.com/Documents/produ...language=en-GB

[sailjumanji]

Mine works exactly how dockhead said upon startup. And as maika said there is an update from b&g that you have to install on the xhartplotfer that is specifically for some features of that new chip.

[a64pilot]

I have V2 and the card is a no go, support says if there isn't an N in the name, it's not going to work.
So I now have a useless card


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[Maika]

The 4D is not supported, you should have bought MAX-N:
http://c-map.jeppesen.com/useful-inf...9746650fb74d3d
http://www.bandg.com/en-GB/Product-Groups/Cartography/

(I was wrong about the plotter having to be on v2, looks like it vas supported from v1:
http://c-map.jeppesen.com/useful-information/compatibility/item/download/1458_1537595aa414c347ac9746650fb74d3d)

[Dockhead]

Originally Posted by a64pilot

I have V2 and the card is a no go, support says if there isn't an N in the name, it's not going to work.
So I now have a useless card


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I told you to call and check compatibility! Send it back and have them exchange it for a compatible one.

[sailjumanji]

Latest version chip for zeus2 from c-map is max n or n+ 2015 denoted. It requires a software update from b&g, to use specific features of that 2015 labeled chip. I know firsthand because I just installed a month ago. The software update notes include info on 2015 version.

[a64pilot]

OK, have had discussions with B&G, bottom line, first you get different answers depending on who you talk to. Some 2015 N+ cards can be used, some can't, but they won't or can't tell you which those are, and apparently 2015 card aren't labeled as such, or at least not on web sites.
GPS store seems to know more than B&G, seems there are -N cards, N cards, N+ cards, more of course, that is just the N card variations, oh and there are "wide" cards and Max too.
N cards work, others not so much. GPS store is allowing me to send the 4G card back for a refund, which is amazing, no software can be returned, usually.
Oh and Jeppeson's site where compatibility is checked in one place says N+ cards are compatible and another says they aren't. No where does it indicate V2 software required, although I do have V2 software.


Bottom line, before you order a chart for a B&G product, unless you know what your doing, you had better call first, problem is who? I have two different answers form two different people at B&G. Still waiting on a call back from one at B&G, not holding my breath.