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Old 12-10-2016, 23:55   #1
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Cheap AIS installation in Phuket

I have to have an AIS installed before checking out of Phuket.

Do you know any business that could do that in Phuket other than

Andaman Electrical Marine or
Electrical Marine ?

I am on a tight budget and short calendar (oct 24).

Thanks
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Re: Cheap AIS installation in Phuket

There is a Raymarine Dealer in Boat Lagoon that can obviously do the job. I do not think you will find anyone cheap in Phuket.

Why don't you put it in yourself. Fairly simple depending on what you want to have and what systems you have in place now. Most AIS units are easy to install into even older systems. You also have to have an MMSI from your flagged country which you usually get on your Radio licence. Do you have one?
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Re: Cheap AIS installation in Phuket

No, I don't have an MMSI number.

I was told I could get one in Thailand.

The only electronic I have on the boat is an old VHF.

Its true that I could try to install it myself and call for help if in difficulties.

I will check with Raymarine to see what they offer.

Thanks for the advice.
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Re: Cheap AIS installation in Phuket

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No, I don't have an MMSI number.

I was told I could get one in Thailand.

The only electronic I have on the boat is an old VHF.

Its true that I could try to install it myself and call for help if in difficulties.

I will check with Raymarine to see what they offer.

Thanks for the advice.
If a VHF is all you have, you're going to need to get a transponder with GPS built in, or buy both a transponder and a GPS
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Re: Cheap AIS installation in Phuket

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No, I don't have an MMSI number.

I was told I could get one in Thailand.

The only electronic I have on the boat is an old VHF.

Its true that I could try to install it myself and call for help if in difficulties.

I will check with Raymarine to see what they offer.

Thanks for the advice.
You have to get the number from your flagged state.

Might be a good idea to upgrade your Radio to DSC and then you can plug in the data from the GPS there as well.
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Old 13-10-2016, 06:56   #6
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Re: Cheap AIS installation in Phuket

I just bought a Lawrence vhf radio with aid in it for 250 bucks. Beats paying for just the ais by itself.

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I just bought a Lawrence vhf radio with aid in it for 250 bucks. Beats paying for just the ais by itself.

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Old 13-10-2016, 07:28   #8
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Re: Cheap AIS installation in Phuket

Thailand is a bit crazy as they require foreign boats to have AIS but not all those crazy long tails! If it was me I would just get one of the cheap MATSUTEC ais transponders frmo ebay, or allepress ($ note that cheap is still $400 USD) and go that way. you still need an MMSI number from your home country.

Also note that from what I understand the US has "different" MMSI numbers for boats that are stateside only and ones that go offshore.
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Re: Cheap AIS installation in Phuket

I just put in a vesper AIS, it's got a low power display, and a gps out that I ran to the vhf. Their splitter works well. So easy a goat can do it. Also outputs to my mini garmin plotter, but sounds like you don't need that.

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Re: Cheap AIS installation in Phuket

I also thought of Vesper's Watchmate. We had them ship one to us in Malaysia from NZ and it was prompt. Breeze to install. As stated, screen uses no power. May be more than you are willing to spend. You could contact them and enquire.
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Re: Cheap AIS installation in Phuket

Hi Kiss2016,

Here's the site for the FCC if you are a US flagged vessel.

FCC: Wireless Services: Ship Radio Stations: Licensing

Don't use the BoatUS site, those numbers are for use in the US only, and will not be recognized by foreign ports.
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Re: Cheap AIS installation in Phuket

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Hi Kiss2016,

Here's the site for the FCC if you are a US flagged vessel.

FCC: Wireless Services: Ship Radio Stations: Licensing

Don't use the BoatUS site, those numbers are for use in the US only, and will not be recognized by foreign ports.
Well. That would have been good to know 5 years ago... How can I tell if I have a US only v International MMSI number? (am I hijacking this thread-not intending to...)
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Re: Cheap AIS installation in Phuket

Do you need to install an AIS transponder or just a receiver? Anyway the installation is easy if you buy an easy to handle system. I made my self in less than a half say having all the necessary pieces on hand.
Just by luck I have seen that ¨Vesper Marine has at present factory rebuilt AIS receivers for sale, about 300$ but you need to connect a GPS.

To made the system simple a installed a separate VHF antenna for the AIS (I installed the 850 transponder in which a GPS is allready built in). In my opininion and experience a reliable device.

For the MMSI you have to ask your flag state. If your boat is not properly flagged for the one or other reason you may help yourself but that is not legal. When you sell the boat the MMSI must be changed, but that was with my boat with help of Vesper Marine easy. Condition not in US waters.
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Re: Cheap AIS installation in Phuket

Check the other forums - maybe in the OpenCPN one. Someone has come up with a way to create AIS with about $15 in parts. Don't remember details but think it might be converting a device that is designed to work with TV's. Sory, but I'mnot sure it is is receive only or also transmits. Presume Thailand wants a transponder.
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Re: Cheap AIS installation in Phuket

Kiss,
1) Regarding not having an MMSI#...
You don't mention what nation your vessel is flagged under, but whatever it is, THAT is the nation whose marine station license you should already have, as you already have a VHF radio on-board and are sailing internationally....
http://wireless.fcc.gov/services/ind...=ship_stations
(it is an international requirement, and a requirement of all nations that are signatories to the ITU, IMO, SOLAS, GMDSS, etc....the US ridiculously allows US-flagged boats that are used ONLY in US waters and ONLY make US domestic VHF radio calls, to install VHF radios without licensing, but that's it!
And, it is the national licensing authority (such as the FCC, for US-flagged vessels) that issues your MMSI#...



2) Regarding the hardware...for any AIS transponder, you will need a VHF antenna and coax cable (or the expensive "splitter")...

{Note that all AIS transponders will come with their own built-in GPS receiver (a legal / standards requirement) and will have their own GPS antenna (which can be installed below deck, in most boats) for this GPS receiver...}

And...

If on a budget, and needing a standalone unit, and needing in quickly (10 days), the best choice is:
Vesper...

A Vesper Watchmate 850 ($ 895 USD) is an all-in, easy-to-use, low-power, AIS transponder, that is probably THE BEST AIS transponder on-the-market!
https://www.vespermarine.com/transpo...chmate-tx.html

Or, if you do not want a display, and/or want a cheaper solution, try the Vesper XB-6000 ($ 595 USD)
https://www.vespermarine.com/transpo...ansponder.html

Or, if want to display on smart phone, tablet, etc. via Wi-Fi, then try the Vesper XB-8000 ($ 799 USD)
https://www.vespermarine.com/transpo...ansponder.html


3) Regarding installation....
You can do it yourself in a few hours...
If you can wire up a VHF radio, you can install the AIS transponder....

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I have to have an AIS installed before checking out of Phuket.

Do you know any business that could do that in Phuket other than

Andaman Electrical Marine or
Electrical Marine ?

I am on a tight budget and short calendar (oct 24).

Thanks
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No, I don't have an MMSI number.

I was told I could get one in Thailand.

The only electronic I have on the boat is an old VHF.

Its true that I could try to install it myself and call for help if in difficulties.

I will check with Raymarine to see what they offer.

Thanks for the advice.
I would NOT recommend a Raymarine AIS transponder....they are expensive and have a poor reliability record....(and I own and use a full suite of Raymarine electronics on-board, but don't use Raymarine AIS!!)


I hope this helps..

Fair winds...

John
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