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Old 26-04-2016, 13:46   #16
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Re: Cellular Data in Canada

Thanks to all, I'm in the market for the same thing (also doing the Down East Loop.)

I thought I'd try AT&T Go Phone. $60/mo for unlimited US, Mexico and Canada.

Until I read the fine print. at least 50% of the calls and data must be in the US each month, or they shut you down. Two people at the AT&T-owned store confirmed this. They recommended getting a burner phone from Rogers or one of the others when we get there.

Someone (maybe in an ActiveCaptain newsletter?) pointed me to mrsimcard.com. They send you the SIM card and activate the service just before you arrive. You can pre-pay for 15 through 90 days. I'm looking at the AT&T plan because that's what my phone takes and the coverage in the Maritimes looks good.
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Huh, I wonder if Canadians can sign up for that! You can say a lot of nice things about Canada but not a single one of them will be about our telecom companies.

Anyway, if you go for a Canadian sim be sure to look at the coverage maps and the new extended coverages. Rogers signed a deal with Telus last year and now they share towers in some areas...
Rogers coverage in Atlantic Canada is spotty on coasts-they put their $$ into major highways & major cities. They are what used to be called an "A" system.
Bell Mobility has ,by far, the most "towers" & give the best coverage of Atlantic Canada coasts & overall (most towers). They used to be known as the "B" system.
Both Rogers & Bell know how to charge$$-no real diff. in final cost.
Both provide the basic celphone/data service where their "towers" are located.Both provide the "bells & whistles" comparable service in major centers.
Both have "leach" providers in Can.,such as Telus,Koodo,etc,etc, who are very competitive in their markets.
Both A & B systems will work with your US system-either A or B (& maybe both?? in hi pop areas) IF you are in range of their (A or B ) tower

Research your home US provider.Ask for their Coverage Map of Canada.

Ask for your provider's "Canada rates" for services that you will need-voice-data,etc.

ASK!!! which Canadian System they are "allied" with-Rogers or Bell Mobility.

If you are not satisfied with your US provider's Can. rates,check with Can. provider's short term rates & THEIR COVERAGE MAP. Some sales people haven't a clue about COVERAGE!

Canada's cellphone system is 100% compatible with USA system-you just have to do some basic research for the areas you plan to visit,if you wish to keep your costs reasonable-just like Canadians have to do when traveling in US.
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We are planning on doing the down east loop this summer and have some questions about cellular data service in Canada. When in the US we are using a Verizon Jetpack 6620L MiFi device to create an onboard hotspot.

Will the Verizon SIM card still work in Canada? If so, will the roaming data costs be extortionate? Does it make sense to get a Canadian SIM card for a month or two? If so, which company?

Thanks in advance.
Check the FILES in this "Cruising the Canadian Atlantic... https://www.facebook.com/groups/268778300122540/

Lots of info in FILES on various subjects.

Hope you enjoy your visit,but be prepared to "rough it" a bit
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Rogers coverage in Atlantic Canada is spotty on coasts-they put their $$ into major highways & major cities. They are what used to be called an "A" system.
Bell Mobility has ,by far, the most "towers" & give the best coverage of Atlantic Canada coasts & overall (most towers). They used to be known as the "B" system.
Both Rogers & Bell know how to charge$$-no real diff. in final cost.
Both provide the basic celphone/data service where their "towers" are located.Both provide the "bells & whistles" comparable service in major centers.
Both have "leach" providers in Can.,such as Telus,Koodo,etc,etc, who are very competitive in their markets.
Both A & B systems will work with your US system-either A or B (& maybe both?? in hi pop areas) IF you are in range of their (A or B ) tower

Research your home US provider.Ask for their Coverage Map of Canada.

Ask for your provider's "Canada rates" for services that you will need-voice-data,etc.

ASK!!! which Canadian System they are "allied" with-Rogers or Bell Mobility.

If you are not satisfied with your US provider's Can. rates,check with Can. provider's short term rates & THEIR COVERAGE MAP. Some sales people haven't a clue about COVERAGE!

Canada's cellphone system is 100% compatible with USA system-you just have to do some basic research for the areas you plan to visit,if you wish to keep your costs reasonable-just like Canadians have to do when traveling in US.
T-Mobile works on all three carriers, Telus, Bell and Rogers. I thought it was just Rogers as that is their preferred partner, but if you set your phone to best available, it will search for the best signal and move between carriers as needed. I noticed I used all three at various times, and sometimes it depended on the time of day it seemed in the same location.
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If you have an iPhone or iPad , go to Rogers for a SIM card , I use one in my iPad for about 15.00 a month ,can use text me for phone , or Skyp and GPS on the iPad as well.
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Bell Mobility has ,by far, the most "towers" & give the best coverage of Atlantic Canada coasts & overall (most towers).
Thanks for the input! I checked Bell Mobility pre-paid plans. Not cheap, but it looks like they may offer the best option for my needs.

I also questioned MrSimCard about the AT&T rule that 50% of the usage must be in the US every month. They confirmed that it's a requirement, but didn't seem to think AT&T would do anything about it if you violated that rule. That's contrary to what two AT&T employees told me to my face, so I'm taking their word for it.

Anybody else know of any "gotcha's" with Bell Mobility?
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IIRC, T-mobile's current option for free Canada & Mexico use requires 50% of your use to be in the US--but didn't specify 50% each month. Rather, if you were in the US using it for six months, and then stepped out for five...you'd still be in the clear.
So it could be worth checking in with T-Mob, and possibly starting to use their service sooner, in order to build that "50%" time here.


What the employees tell you, at any of the celcos, is often quite creative. You need to call the "executive offices" (the FCC can give you a contact number of the carrier can't) and, sadly, record the call to hold them to it. Of course you may need a landline or rooted phone to do that--the US carriers have almost totally blocked the call-recording features on almost all cell phones sold in the US market. "The same" phones marketed in Korea, the EU, Japan, Syria, all sorts of other places, don't have that feature mysteriously disabled and locked out.
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Went to the T mobile store, and it seems like a great solution, and my att supplied phone uses the same signal types, so I can just buy the SIM card and switch carriers. Thanks everyone!

Have to unlock my att phone first which can be done on line or via phone and can take up to 72 hours.

100 bucks a month for 2 smart phones sharing 6gb. 120 bucks for 10gb of data.
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Do also doublecheck, do a web search don't just take the word of the guys in the stores, that your phone actually uses the same voice AND data bands that T-Mob will use. IIRC, in the continental US they both use the same 4G-LTE bands. But they may use different 4G bands (which are not the same as 4G-LTE) and they share the 2G data bands, but not 3G. If you go to Puerto Rico, Canada, anyplace outside the continental US? Even if the carriers are the same, the bands they use sometimes differ. And the staff in the stores, and often "first line" staff on the phones, usually aren't clear on the details.


Just FWIW, you know. "Cut once measure twice."
(Oh, wait, maybe that's backwards?(G)
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