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Old 13-06-2013, 14:42   #16
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I'll give it a try. Will the Lowrance know what to do when I plug it in?
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Re: B&G Triton display owners

No clue, I have never used a Lowrance. Maybe look on-line for the manual?

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Old 13-06-2013, 16:49   #18
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Re: B&G Triton display owners

Question 1: Do the Tritons have an AIS display?

Question 2: Do the Tritons have a GPS based anchor alarm? (IIRC they used to support a depth-based anchor alarm)

I'm contemplating some changes.......
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Question 1: Do the Tritons have an AIS display?

Question 2: Do the Tritons have a GPS based anchor alarm? (IIRC they used to support a depth-based anchor alarm)

I'm contemplating some changes.......
No and No.

I have high hopes that they will add an AIS display - they have added significant functionality and new displays with each software update (3 software versions since they became available in May 2012). The anchor alarm is depth-based, which isn't really useful. I doubt they will ever change that because it just isn't the purpose of this display. Best to use an iThing app or Vespar, etc, or just a handheld GPS for that.

The Raymarine is the only device in this catagory that has an AIS display, but I think it only works with RM AIS. Don't know if any of these small MFD's do GPS based anchor alarms.

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Old 13-06-2013, 18:49   #20
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No and No.

I have high hopes that they will add an AIS display - they have added significant functionality and new displays with each software update (3 software versions since they became available in May 2012). The anchor alarm is depth-based, which isn't really useful. I doubt they will ever change that because it just isn't the purpose of this display. Best to use an iThing app or Vespar, etc, or just a handheld GPS for that.

The Raymarine is the only device in this catagory that has an AIS display, but I think it only works with RM AIS. Don't know if any of these small MFD's do GPS based anchor alarms.

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The Furuno RD33 has GPS based anchor alarm. iDevices are OK for anchor alarm, but a dedicated device is better IMO.

I was hoping/thinking RM would work with N2K AIS as they advertise N2K compatibility.

I was wishing for one go-to vendor.
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I was hoping/thinking RM would work with N2K AIS as they advertise N2K compatibility.
I think I was wrong on that one. It looks like the i70 will display from other AIS transponders, but only control RM's AIS. In other words, it will act as a display and have alarms, etc separately from a non-RM AIS, but if hooked to a RM AIS, one can use it to control alarms, silent mode, etc of the AIS unit itself.

I have no experience with it, just been reading some of the documentation.

Unless this one particular function is very important to you, the Triton is the better unit. If B&G adds an AIS display, it is game over for the rest.

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The Furuno RD33 has GPS based anchor alarm.
The RD33 IMO has a different purpose than the T41, i70, etc mfds. It seems to be more along the likes of the Maretron DSM250.

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Unless this one particular function is very important to you, the Triton is the better unit. If B&G adds an AIS display, it is game over for the rest.
Garmin GMI20 looks promising

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I think I was wrong on that one. It looks like the i70 will display from other AIS transponders, but only control RM's AIS. In other words, it will act as a display and have alarms, etc separately from a non-RM AIS, but if hooked to a RM AIS, one can use it to control alarms, silent mode, etc of the AIS unit itself.
Yes, this sounds correct.

My experience with blackbox AIS units (no display) is they have no internal alarm capability, they simply send the NMEA0183 and/or NMEA2000 data for dynamic and static AIS targets as received. The display unit performs the tracking and alarm functions.

Also, it appears that NMEA, in their infinite wisdom, has not specified a PGN for a display to tell an AIS transceiver to go to silent mode, hence RM does it with a proprietary PGN.
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The RD33 IMO has a different purpose than the T41, i70, etc mfds. It seems to be more along the likes of the Maretron DSM250.

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I think Furuno may try to position the RD33 up against the i70 & T41.

I use the RD33 for GPS based anchor alarm, it's a LEN6 on the N2k network (<3watts) so it's low power draw. I also use it for tracking MAX TWS, AVG SOG, and MAX SOG. It does laylines, highway displays, tank/engine/environment stuff, but I don't use those.

The RD33 has (2) N2K ports and (1) 0183 port and performs gateway functions between the networks for the data it can display (no AIS or DSC).

Why no AIS display is dumb, IMO.
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Why no AIS display is dumb, IMO.
Ahem...Furuno...Ahem...AIS over N2K...Ahem...

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Ahem...Furuno...Ahem...AIS over N2K...Ahem...

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Agree!!

We all have high hopes for v2.09, although rumors from a good source says it won't be there for NN3D.

I would be happy if they support Class B targets on 0183 properly (icon is not directional like Class A) ....
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I would be happy if they support Class B targets on 0183 properly (icon is not directional like Class A) ....
I never noticed that - I will have to check it out. Do you mean the icon simply points in the same direction all the time regardless of the direction of travel? Seems like I would have noticed that before.

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I never noticed that - I will have to check it out. Do you mean the icon simply points in the same direction all the time regardless of the direction of travel? Seems like I would have noticed that before.

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You'll notice the triangles for some targets always point north even though the heading arrow points in a different direction. Other targets the triangle points in the heading direction. I attribute that to Class B only because Class B is a later 'add-on' to NMEA0183 and I assume Furuno either ignored it or got the code messed up.
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You'll notice the triangles for some targets always point north even though the heading arrow points in a different direction. Other targets the triangle points in the heading direction. I attribute that to Class B only because Class B is a later 'add-on' to NMEA0183 and I assume Furuno either ignored it or got the code messed up.
isn't that because class B does necessarily transmit Heading information ,

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