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Old 29-08-2015, 14:17   #1
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AIS on tiny Garmin 440s screen

Thinking of adding AIS receiver through VHS antenna using my Garmin GPSmap440s chartplotter for the display. It's a small screen; can anyone tell me if the AIS targets and info on such a screen tend to get in the way of the chart itself? -thx
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Re: AIS on tiny Garmin 440s screen

I am running AIS on my Garmin 440. It works ok. Throwing the data to the iPad is better.

FWIW, my next plotter will be at least 7"!


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Re: AIS on tiny Garmin 440s screen

We went from a 5" to a 12", no going back now:P

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Re: AIS on tiny Garmin 440s screen

Thanks, y'all.... anyone else?

A larger screen is really not in the budget. Would you say that adding the AIS data is simpy impractical on the small screen, or is worth the several hundred dollars it costs to install? -thx
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Re: AIS on tiny Garmin 440s screen

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Thanks, y'all.... anyone else?

A larger screen is really not in the budget. Would you say that adding the AIS data is simpy impractical on the small screen, or is worth the several hundred dollars it costs to install? -thx
I agree bigger is better but you can manage the data. Heck I have AIS on the remote mic screen of my VHF. The three buttons below allow you do manage the target data quickly.

I'm adding radar to a 7" SH 180i plotter and would love to go 10"- 12" but 7 is the lucky number.
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Thanks, y'all.... anyone else?

A larger screen is really not in the budget. Would you say that adding the AIS data is simpy impractical on the small screen, or is worth the several hundred dollars it costs to install? -thx

It is NOT impractical. I would suggest getting the full transponder vs receive only.

Vesper watchmate has wifi so adding a laptop with OpenCpn or a tablet gets very easy


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Re: AIS on tiny Garmin 440s screen

I have a Garmin 451 at the nav station, and have just bought a Vesper XB-8000. Display on the 451 is fine and usable - bigger would be nice but not necessary. The AIS alarm can be little annoying as it does not clear if the approach changes and has to be turned off manually. If there's a lot of traffic around I turn the alarm off until I'm clear of it.

Like the Watchmate the XB-800 has a wifi gateway which transmits the AIS data and can also forward other nmea traffic either from 0183 or 2000. In the cockpit I then use either my phone or a tablet with Memory Map on it - works well, has CPA warnings, and is cheap.

I opted to use a splitter from the main VHF antenna, then keep a spare antenna ready to be plugged into the splitter if the main fails / mast comes down.
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Re: AIS on tiny Garmin 440s screen

Works just fine for me
Does not get in the way of charts unless you are zoomed way out and I am located in Los Angeles Harbor
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We went from a 5" to a 12", no going back now:P
When it come to chartplotter display, yes, size does matter. I've got 6", but wish it were more.
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Re: AIS on tiny Garmin 440s screen

I just installed Standard GX2200 in our C30. We are up and down the Houston ship channel so its a nice gadget especially at night. I just ordered the repeater Mike so I can have the info at the helm. I have a smaller Garmin plotter and thought it would be too cluttered. The 2200 is really nice and an easy install, no splitters, extra antennas, etc. It is receive only though but that's what we need. The remote allows control of all radio functions and a 23' extension is available. Probably one of the nicest pieces of gear I have purchased, the entire project will be just over $400 including the repeater Mike. It is also a GPS and DSC. So no extra boxes to connect.
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Re: AIS on tiny Garmin 440s screen

you should be able to turn off and on AIS layers if needed or they get in the way. most CP's can.
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Re: AIS on tiny Garmin 440s screen

Hi all, I remember there is a guy in England who offers electronics for diy AIS screen and also as a kit (and other marine related kits) in the price range between 10 and 30 Euros. Does anyone have the name or web site of this guy? Thanks El
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Re: AIS on tiny Garmin 440s screen

We have a 441 at the nav station for use as an anchor watch primarily.

The AIS works just fine on the small display. Bigger displays are easier and nicer, but not necessary.

You can shorten the range on the AIS alarm to limit the nuisance alarms or just turn it off temporarily.
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Hi all, I remember there is a guy in England who offers electronics for diy AIS screen and also as a kit (and other marine related kits) in the price range between 10 and 30 Euros. Does anyone have the name or web site of this guy? Thanks El
New Zealand not England, but ? ➥ Cheapest AIS RECEIVER SYSTEM for Yachts
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Re: AIS on tiny Garmin 440s screen

The AIS display on the Garmin looks like a green ( or red if it is close) triangle. You can cursor to it and select for more info. Another way to get data is menu, other vessels, then click on the AIS target list.
This season I've been using a 551s to display the chart with AIS (most time in full screen) and a 441s also mounted at the helm to display all my numbers - depth, position, time, speed etc. The garmins both have the same AIS data so I can get the detail info on either screen.
This setup work and buying the chartplotters used cost a lot less than one big dedicated screen - also gives me redundancy if one goes toes up.Click image for larger version

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