Why are there few high-weight Cruiser Folk?

[FlyingScot]

There seems to be plenty of evidence that water intake, plenty of sleep and low stress contribute to lower overall weight.

For some reason napping seems to shorten life.

I'm not an active sailor, so I can't directly correlate, but I drink a lot water and other watery fluids to make sure my urine is clear or straw colored. Hearing people talk of kidney stone pain makes this an easy decision. Seems only logical that keeping a lot of water flowing through the system would prevent buildup. Whether it by my kidneys or any boat system.

I find that it is easy to drink more water when you have plenty of cold clean water easy dispensed. The harder it is to get, the less you are likely to drink.

Chris

[dana-tenacity]

Lose the outboard and learn to row. Problem solved.

[Brob2]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

For some reason napping seems to shorten life.

Chris

God help us all if that's the case.

Where did you hear that??

[thomm225]

Originally Posted by boatman61

I think the fattest were the first to die.. mobile rations..

It's documented in various accounts that the folks with the most fat content could last the longest.

One example is in the story of the Essex, the whale ship that sank after being attacked by a whale as told in The Heart of the Sea by Nathaniel Philbrick.

At one point, the sailors went for about a month or so on 3 ounces of Hard Tack and half an pint of water

Twenty sailors or so sailed 4,600 miles starting out on three 25' whale boats they had been converted into sailboats. The voyage lasted about 89 days

Two boats and 5 sailors survived the voyage. 3 sailor abandoned and stayed on Henderson Island where they barely survived until rescued later

So based on this, some researchers have concluded Pacific Islanders are naturally heavier (have more fat content) because the islands were at first inhabited by survivors of long ocean voyages.....

[boatman61]

True where Western sailors are concerned maybe.. however there are other factors to take into account where Pacific Islanders are concerned.. they had a tradition of cannibalism and took captives as and when they could.. breeding with the women to spread/strengthen their gene pool and using the males over a certain age as a source of protein..
As for survival situations I think its more down to the individuals mental strength than his fat content.
A skinny guy like me who calls a starter a meal can happily do without food for long periods as opposed to a bulk feeder who goes into depression if he misses lunch..

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by Brob2

God help us all if that's the case.

Where did you hear that??

Likely on one of thousands of NPR stories or the like. Quick web search shows conflicting studies, but one 'study of the studies' points to increased risk of death to those who nap. Sleeping less than 6 hours or even worse more than 9 also point to earlier demise.

I wouldn't let it stop me from napping if that was my routine. I choose the get up a little later but have dreamed of afternoon napping on a boat.

[meatservo]

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For some reason napping seems to shorten life.[/QUOTE]

That has to be one of the biggest load of crap that I have ever heard.

take a nap, especially if you are older, have a drink, enjoy the sunset.

If you die, so be it, no one gets out alive. Hold your loved ones close, keep your enemies closer, and say a prayer to your God for forgiveness. What do you have to lose, "Pascals Wager"

meatservo

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

There seems to be plenty of evidence that water intake, plenty of sleep and low stress contribute to lower overall weight.

For some reason napping seems to shorten life.

I'm not an active sailor, so I can't directly correlate, but I drink a lot water and other watery fluids to make sure my urine is clear or straw colored. Hearing people talk of kidney stone pain makes this an easy decision. Seems only logical that keeping a lot of water flowing through the system would prevent buildup. Whether it by my kidneys or any boat system.

I find that it is easy to drink more water when you have plenty of cold clean water easy dispensed. The harder it is to get, the less you are likely to drink.

Chris

I.drink about a gallon and a half of water a day and I pass about 3 or so stones a year.
It seems to be.as much genetics as any outside influance.

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

There seems to be plenty of evidence that water intake, plenty of sleep and low stress contribute to lower overall weight.

For some reason napping seems to shorten life.


Chris

If that is so well alrighty then. Dad is 92 still sails and lives on his 38ft power boat he sleeps about 6 broken hours a night ( normal night time head calls.he is 92 afterall) . He also takes about an hours nap after lunch daily.
(Again he is 92 and still sails and lives alone on his power boat.)

[FlyingScot]

Originally Posted by newhaul

I.drink about a gallon and a half of water a day and I pass about 3 or so stones a year.
It seems to be.as much genetics as any outside influance.

I'm not a medical professional and no subject matter expert, but thinking out loud here: I'm guessing low amounts of water daily and the problem would likely be worse.

If you don't mind sharing, have you always stayed very hydrated? Or did you drink a lot more after passing your first stone?

I'm hopeful that I never get to experience the fun.

Don't want to thread drift too much so PM if you feel appropriate and desire to share.

Chris

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by FlyingScot

I'm not a medical professional and no subject matter expert, but thinking out loud here: I'm guessing low amounts of water daily and the problem would likely be worse.

If you don't mind sharing, have you always stayed very hydrated? Or did you drink a lot more after passing your first stone?

I'm hopeful that I never get to experience the fun.

Don't want to thread drift too much so PM if you feel appropriate and desire to share.

Chris

Got no problem sharing and I don't wish that pain upon anyone. The biggest was 5x7 km in size. And no that's not a misprint.
Yes I have always been big on hydrating. At least a gallon per day minimum.
Most are little ones in the 2-3 mm size range.
One thing I'm sure of is that hydration does tend to lead to a healthier me. I don't get sick as much as other people,e that don't drink as much water. ( adding Mio or some other flavoring like that will help to hydrate more). I can only stand so much plain water in a day.

[StuM]

> The biggest was 5x7 km in size. And no that's not a misprint.

??? You sure about that?
A stone that's 3 x 4.3 miles? That's quite a bit bigger than Uluru/Ayers Rock

[boatman61]

Originally Posted by StuM

> The biggest was 5x7 km in size. And no that's not a misprint.

??? You sure about that?
A stone that's 3 x 4.3 miles? That's quite a bit bigger than Uluru/Ayers Rock

Stu.. everything is Bigger and Better in the US of A...

[MarkJ]

There is a certain level of BS where a magazine might tell you to nap to save your life whilst you still stuff donuts down your face.

Same with water: South African athletes are now saying we're drinking too much water and we should just drink to thirst.
Others that kidney stones can be reduced but chopping carbs from the diet.
Constipation caused by too much fibre, not as we currently think, not enough fibre.

To make it all worse if that many, many people just keep doing what they've always done.
Obese smoking friend of mine in Australia nearly died of heart attack, had a stent put in so doesn't think his diet needs changing. We ALL have friends like that.

Even if exercise dropped weight (it doesn't) you would need to workout like an athlete. But the number of cruisers our age that do I can count on one hand. Literally one hand. The rest of us can't and won't exercise enough for health let alone weight loss.

The only saving grace we have is Google. We can jump on the net and read the research your doctor does. It's there. However most will think that their way that's never worked will work if the drink a green smoothy or walk around the block.

According to The Lancet global burden of disease reports, poor diet now generates more disease than physical inactivity, alcohol and smoking combined. Up to 40% of those with a normal body mass index will harbour metabolic abnormalities typically associated with obesity, which include hypertension, dyslipidaemia, non-alcoholic fatty liver disease and cardiovascular disease.

http://bjsmbeta.bmj.com/content/earl...15-094911.full

[newhaul]

Originally Posted by StuM

> The biggest was 5x7 km in size. And no that's not a misprint.

??? You sure about that?
A stone that's 3 x 4.3 miles? That's quite a bit bigger than Uluru/Ayers Rock

Dang auto correct supposed to be mm not km good catch