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Old 06-12-2018, 13:37   #1
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I hired a friend to move my 48 ft boat from South Florida east coast to Central Florida West Coast...about two hours from our destination marina he runs the boat aground in Sarasota Bay. Now there is vibration around 1000 RPMs. So our thought is a bent prop....now, the question is who pays for the damage. Me or my friend. He is not a licensed Captain but is very good with boats...The channel was not marked.
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Sorry, but I think you pay. Sounds like you decided to take certain risks by hiring a friend instead of a professional. A pro would have carried insurance or hopefully had the resources to take care of his mistakes. Had this project gone smoothly, you would have had the benefit of paying less to have a buddy do it. It didn't go smoothly - I think that is the risk you took.
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Old 06-12-2018, 13:46   #3
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Since it sounds like the damage was not caused by his negligence, (channel not marked) and he was moving it for you (not borrowing it for his pleasure) I would say that it is your boat, your cost.
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you pay of course. Hire an insured pro if you want it otherwise.
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Old 06-12-2018, 13:51   #5
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What's the problem? Your insurance pays.
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I am assuming you have no insurance.
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Re: Who Pays????

Assuming there is insurance, a rash assumption. And an insurer might get upset about the word "hired".

Sarasota Bay is also not completely terra incognito, the absence of a formally designated channel doesn't mean the depth of water or "the usual path" wasn't known and documented, or couldn't be confirmed in advance.

This is how friendships are tested and lawsuits started.

I pay you to deliver my boat. A giant narwhal attacks without reason and rams the boat. Hardly your fault. OTOH, if you decide to drive the boat someplace where there might not be water....I'm not going to feel so forgiving.
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Old 06-12-2018, 15:02   #8
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I'm not clear on the "channel not marked" part. I've been through there exactly once, but between the chart, and the markers, I had no problem staying in the channel.

If I were hired for that delivery, even by a friend, I'd be so embarrassed if I ran aground that I'd be doing everything in my power to put it right. As a deliver skipper, it's on me to find good water.
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I hired a friend to move my 48 ft boat from South Florida east coast to Central Florida West Coast...about two hours from our destination marina he runs the boat aground in Sarasota Bay. Now there is vibration around 1000 RPMs. So our thought is a bent prop....now, the question is who pays for the damage. Me or my friend. He is not a licensed Captain but is very good with boats...The channel was not marked.
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I hired a friend ...
How much is your friendship worth?? the cost of a prop repair????
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Well, everyone else is asking for others to pay on GoFundMe, you may as well give it a shot. Only a dramatic story needed.
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'from our destination' sounds like you were on the boat

if so, this is definitely your buy

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Yes, assuming you were on board your own boat, you were the skipper and pretty much anything that happened was your responsibility. The captain of the Exxon Valdez was asleep in his bunk when the ship ran aground, but guess what?
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Yes, assuming you were on board your own boat, you were the skipper and pretty much anything that happened was your responsibility. The captain of the Exxon Valdez was asleep in his bunk when the ship ran aground, but guess what?
That's kind of the OPs question. I don't think the owner of the Valdez was on board, but if he was (and it seems like the OP was?) whose fault would it have been?

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You pay if your friend wasn’t being paid to be a skipper. If he was paid to be a hired hand and you were on the boat you still pay. He’s only responsible to pay if he was the hired skipper:
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