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Old 27-08-2016, 12:31   #31
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Well... it does have good engine access... and a well-stocked liquor shelf!
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Well... it does have good engine access... and a well-stocked liquor shelf!
What else do you need? Here, hold my beer and watch this!
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Old 27-08-2016, 12:36   #33
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What else do you need? Here, hold my beer and watch this!
Aha! Sounds like you are a quick study! You have gone to the head of the "Ol' Salt" class!
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So aside from boat layouts, and the sail vs power debate... some of the things that have recently come up in discussions about living aboard and cruising are emergencies.

My partner is ok with living aboard, but he is absolutely against cruising. Even cruising from Galveston to Port Aransas, which is like an afternoon cruise I would think.

So what kind of emergencies can arise on both sail, and power boats that aren't weather related. Obviously engines can fail on both, and in that case what do you do?

If you're in US waters obviously you can get a tow in, or Coast Guard assistance, but what do you do if you're in International waters? VHF radios aren't long range, but are you generally within radio distance of other ships in the Gulf/Carribean areas? Do you rely on Sat Phones with radios aren't working?

And what about things like customs? Where do you learn about what waters you can cruise in and can't, and entry fees for other countries or islands?

Is there a "sailing for dummies" guide?
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For now coastally, you have relatively little to worry about. VHF is fine. You aren't going 30 miles offshore yet are you? And VHF radios now have an emergency button to push that will send out a distress signal along with your GPS coordinates. Become a member of BoatUS and it's like AAA of the sea. They will come and give you a tow. If a sailboat engine breaks down, you can still sail... or just relax and wait for the wind or call for a tow. There are satphones but you can get an EPIRB which is an emergency position indicating radio beacon which alerts planes and satellites worldwide which relay the message to Coast Guard for help in case of emergency; you just flip a switch. You can get a liferaft, nowadays they are very tough and reliable. These things can be a start to calming the fears of your partner. Then just go out a mile or two and come back in. Once you see that you don't sink or have any problems you will venture farther out and the whole thing becomes a lot clearer. And then you realize that even in a leaky dinghy you are safer on the water than you were in the car on the highway that got you to the harbor in the first place.
As for types of emergencies... well I tend to bump my head on things a lot, but that is just me. Slipping and falling. Sunburn. Fish hooks in the finger. Knife cuts. Now if you are talking about rough weather, then maybe things ramp up a little, but you aren't going out in that yet. Weather forecasts are fairly good these days too.
And I believe there is a "Sailing for Dummies" book too. Try not to get permanently tied to the dock, there is a lot of fun out there!
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Sounds like you don't cruise with or sell gear to the majority of cruisers I see.

They have taken few, if any, formal courses but have gained experience over years sailing on a range of boats and probably have owned several of increasing size over the years. They may have 'bought their boat 4 months ago and are heading off cruising', but they've built the necessary skills and experience to do so over many years.

ISTM, that north americans seem to place a lot more reliance on sailing courses and formal qualifications than do people from most other countries.
Stu, I reckon you nailed it right there.
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Stu, I reckon you nailed it right there.
Well.... not ALL of us!
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Stu, I reckon you nailed it right there.

Why do you think that is?

I wonder if its because of our litigious nature, and always looking for someone else to blame or pay for it should anything get damaged. We can't even enjoy a cup of coffee from mcdonalds now without being warned that the coffee is hot and may burn you if spilled.
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Stu, I reckon you nailed it right there.
Perhaps, but the underlying reason for much of it is that our illustrious insurance corporations require some sort of "certificate " to prove to them your not a renegade or whatever,their excuse. And that cert will likely make your premium a bit more bearable , if that's possible.hehe.
I'm sure at some stage your ins associates will figure out the creative billing schemes, no ?
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Perhaps, but the underlying reason for much of it is that our illustrious insurance corporations require some sort of "certificate " to prove to them your not a renegade or whatever,their excuse. And that cert will likely make your premium a bit more bearable , if that's possible.hehe.
I'm sure at some stage your ins associates will figure out the creative billing schemes, no ?
Yeah, I reckon you'r probably right. (sigh)
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You live in TX? Start here. I sailed a LOT in the 80's but when I came back to boating, I took the state courses and found them very informative. Was a wonderful refresher for me, even though age wise I was not required.

https://www.boat-ed.com/texas/
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I did take my boaters safety course through boat-Ed. I was disappointed though because it was highly geared towards PWC's.

I'll have to check out some of the other courses.
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I'm glad those PWC guys are required to take a course. They have become a Royal PIA. Like snowboarders on a ski slope! LOL
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