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Old 28-09-2012, 21:35   #241
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Re: What happens to all the wannabees?

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I have never seen a gas fridge on a sailboat. Not the safest things in my opinion.
My Gemini has one, Absolutely magic.
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Old 28-09-2012, 21:39   #242
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Ah well a cat is a little more stable..I remember growing up and being with my folks camping. Their trailers had them but had to be very level to run them . What make us the fridge. Is it original or after market?
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Old 28-09-2012, 21:53   #243
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I grew up on a 68 ft. cutter rigged sloop. It was a charter vessel upon which my dad took groups out to local reefs and islands every weekend.

Every Easter and Christmas we did an extended cruise to the Whitsundays, which was a paradise in the late sixties. I sailed sabots with mates on the weekends when I was not at the reef. Later I sailed Hobie cats off the beach and my uncle and I have some great yarns about the mischief we got up to on his Tornado too. I love the sea.

One day a film crew chartered the “Southern maid” (and yes, for anyone in the know, it was the very same vessel owned by Andrew Martin of Percy Island fame) they were making a documentary and were doing some filming around the reefs my father knew so well.

My dad was a professional diver and had imported for me (as a seven year old) a small aqualung from the states. Well, the film crew were blown away at this little reef kid and filmed a few shots of me diving. To cut along story short, I ended up featuring in a series of documentaries about conservation on the Great Barrier Reef.

Sir David Frost narrated one, Ex Prime minister Sir John Gorton another. I met lots of interesting people. Learned about film camerawork from the likes of Ben Cropp and Ron and Valerie Taylor. I travelled up and down the reef from New Guinea to Heron Island. I rode on Manta rays, got bitten by Moray eels, and ate dugong and speared crayfish with Torres straight Islanders. I dived on the (now world famous) “cod hole” off Lizard Island all before my thirteenth birthday.

Back at school and back into the “real” world after a whirlwind couple of years, the much taunted & bullied “reef boy” completed his schooling and became a cameraman at the local television station.

I bought a “Daydream” hull with motor already installed. Over the next few years I fitted her out, honing my boatbuilding skills. I met the fellow who had built the hull and rented a room from him while I worked on the boat in his backyard. All the while learning from this journeyman boat builder, who, now in his seventies, had built dozens of vessels in his lifetime. I thought I was close to completion so I quit work to work on the boat full time. Big mistake! within six months I had not finished and run out of money.

I got a job in Sydney and left the boat in Townsville. I swapped the boat for a functional trailer sailor and some cash and enjoyed some fun times on Sydney harbour.

I worked around Australia before settling to start a family. We were together for 20 years (and raised a fine son) before the bean counters decided that the fifty year old bloke was one too many for the shareholders to bear, and I was retrenched. After over 100 unsuccessful job applications (I honestly would have done anything) the relationship went south and we separated.

The say “the darkest hour is right before dawn” Within six months I had applied for and landed a job in the industry again. We sold the house and I wound up with $100,000 as my share of the split. I had a good job and life was looking good. I realised I was now in a position to achieve my lifelong goal of “cruising”. I was thinking “about 50 for the boat and the remainder in the kitty and away I go”!

I ended up falling in love. Who wouldn’t? Have you ever seen the Cabo Rico Tiburon? The clipper bow, the sweet lines, spacious centre cockpit. She was $80,000 though. But, what the hey? What’s money when you’re in love? I could always just keep working a little longer and all would be well.

Around this time I met Cheryl and we hit it off. Cheryl had split with her husband after being diagnosed with Leukaemia. Which is now being successfully managed with chemotherapy. She had never considered any life other than suburbia and quickly fell in love with the idea of us cruising together. We set to work, in every minute of our spare time we sanded, painted, epoxied, polished, sweated, cursed, laughed and …well, you folks all know how it goes.

Then the Motor blew. I knew it was not brilliant but thought I could bring it up to scratch. I replaced the motor with a reconditioned one, and $12,000 later all was looking good again. Over the course of this time I began to notice small holes drilled here and there throughout the interior. One night aboard after a few weeks of rain I noticed the drips coming from the holes. They were inspection holes to gauge the extent of the water ingress. On a Balsa cored hull! Several hours of tapping later we were aware of the full extent of the rot. The entire deck would need to be replaced.

After a very difficult period of time, I picked myself up dusted myself off and got to work. I extracted $12,000 from the surveyor for their negligence. This was achieved without involving lawyers and I figured it was the best I could expect without the additional pain of a protracted legal case and the possibility of losing a lot more money. At least it covered the motor! I went to the bank and borrowed $60,000 and recruited the services of the best shipwright I could find to make my beautiful yacht better again. I figured it better to have it professionally repaired quickly, than me bumble along and perhaps run out of time/money etc.
I would simply enjoy day sailing until I had paid off the loan.

The deck has all been replaced; I am slowly fitting all the deck hardware back on, (properly this time, as that was one source of the water ingress) the bronze ports are affixed back into the coach sides. I have also discovered that all the capping rails were never properly sealed so now the rails are off and I am in the process of repairing the leaky stanchion bases. Once completed, there will be no more leaks. A dry boat at last!

Now, with Marina fees, and loan repayments and such, there’s not much money left over for any improvements. I have seven years of repayments left and I am working full time and then working on my boat all weekend.

I have suffered with a bad back most of my working life. The constant contortion required of boat repair, as any boat owner knows, is not that easy on the back. My engine room in particular is very cramped and several times I have lain on my back on the dock trying to straighten out.

I drove long distance recently and got out of the car with damage to my back.
I have a severe prolapse, which is pushing on nerves and, as well as being very painful, is apparently very dangerous. They flew me (on the flying doctor, 2am last Tuesday) to a bigger hospital. An MRI had revealed the extent of the problem and they felt it better for me to be here.

I am lying here in the hospital bed waiting in a queue for surgery soon.
I have no health insurance, and money is starting to get very tight.

I am in love with my little Cabo and couldn’t even countenance the thought of selling her. I’d be flat out even getting the $80,000 back, let alone any more.

That’s my wannabe story for you Atoll. Thanks for the prompt, as this could also serve as the introduction I’d never posted in meets and greets.

You are right; I have benefitted from your knowledge, thanks mate.
When I posted about the dangers of not properly bedding deck hardware on a balsa cored boat, DOJ sensibly suggested replacing the stress areas with marine ply to serve as a crush block, your advice was to replace with sugar, hops and barley instead, so that when I had to open it up again we could all get pissed.

Sheesh mate, I thought that was hilarious.
10,000 unemployed comedians and you wannabe one too. I guess we’re both wannabes hey? I recon I have a better sense of humour though

Re - the term wannabe, I have been called far worse than that by better people than you Atoll. Just as long as you don’t call me late for Dinner hey? I know a lot of folks get off on bigging themselves up by putting others down, but personally its not my way.

P.S. for a number of reasons, pointed out by the new surveyor and shipwright, it was obvious that the senior policeman I bought the boat from knew, without a doubt, of the extent of the rot.
I only mention his occupation because I stupidly expected a little more honesty.
I would have been happy buying a project too, at the right price.
What really surprised me was that in canvassing opinions about my predicament, 95% of folks said “cover it up and flog it off to some other sucker”
What a wonderful world!

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Old 28-09-2012, 21:56   #244
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Go with a gas fridge and freezer, You get about 3 weeks to a gas bottle, and solar for your power,
What type of gas, and how big is the bottle?
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Old 28-09-2012, 23:06   #245
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What type of gas, and how big is the bottle?
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Its a Dometic Fridge, 1200 approx, Gemini's have them as standard equiptment.

They are also in a lot of them in RV's in America,

Runs on Propane, Your standard gas bottle for the B-B-Que, I have two bottles in the rear locker.
It also has gas leak detectors as part of the standard equiptment that came with the boat,
Originally installed by the Gemini builders,

Look up the Gemini site and it has the full description and piccy's of the fridge and freezer,

The same gas is also connected to my stove and oven as well,

The gas bottles can be filled almost any where in the world,

As for this bit about the boat needs to be level, I dont think so, My boat has been up to 70 degrees and the fridge kept working, It only stops when it runs out of gas,
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Old 29-09-2012, 00:08   #246
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Many of the newer models of marine fridges have 3 way power options, meaning they can run on 12V, 110V, and propane. I'm sure you can get 24V and 220V options. I'm shopping for a new one now myself, definitely going with the 3-way so I can use propane, which is supposed to be super efficient. With the 3-way if you run out of gas you can run on 12V, or if you are at the dock you can run it on shore power, or off the generator if you are charging batteries. More options is better.
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A lot of you guys, in fact all of you guys, need to lift weights and do strength training. I bring kettlebells with me wherever I go and try to lift at least three days a week. Used to have lots of back problems, now I can pull 400lbs off the floor. And I work in the engine room, on the teak decks, and sit in a wooden cockpit on watch for hours on end (and sleep in there too underway).

The lack of fitness and preventable injuries screws up more sailing plans than boat problems. Strength training is not something for "other" people. It's for you.

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Old 29-09-2012, 00:33   #248
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A lot of you guys, in fact all of you guys, need to lift weights and do strength training. I bring kettlebells with me wherever I go and try to lift at least three days a week. Used to have lots of back problems, now I can pull 400lbs off the floor. And I work in the engine room, on the teak decks, and sit in a wooden cockpit on watch for hours on end (and sleep in there too underway).

The lack of fitness and preventable injuries screws up more sailing plans than boat problems. Strength training is not something for "other" people. It's for you.

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Preaching to the converted here. Unfortunately, a lifetime of running large grinders overhead all day has destroyed most of the joints in my upper body and I can no longer lift seriously. I've had both rotator cuffs done, as well as both wrists more than once, and some knee action. The specialist sports surgeon loves me. I don't have any cartilage left in several of my joints. I find lifting freeweights isn't really an option for me anymore, it leaves me totally destroyed. Cabled machines are much easier on me, I've been thinking about trying to build one in but concluded it's just too far down on the project list to seriously consider.
As an afterthought, I'm pretty sure all the obsessive heavy lifting, boxing and kickboxing in my youth contributed almost as much to my present condition as my career choices. It sucks to be 40 and broken (relatively speaking).
Your kettlebells are a nice easily stowable choice for aboard ship, and they give loads of options for work outs. And in a pinch they could be used for a kellet or downrigger weight or dinghy anchor, thereby fitting the "must have more than one potential use" rule as well!
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Old 29-09-2012, 00:39   #249
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Yup...both wrists here too and rotated sacrum on occasion. I plan to re-sign up for Yoga. It seems to serve a good purpose for crawling into tight spaces.
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Yup...both wrists here too and rotated sacrum on occasion. I plan to re-sign up for Yoga. It seems to serve a good purpose for crawling into tight spaces.

LOL! My wife is really into Yoga, and it makes her absolutely crazy that when we do Yoga together on the Wii Fit (I tend to mock Yoga because it peeves her), I always rate "Yoga Master" and she just can't catch up. She's way more flexible than me, but on the machine it's all about balance...
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Old 29-09-2012, 01:16   #251
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Im at the other end of the scale, I have been shedding muscle over the last 5 years so I dont end up dead,

You retire, still with full muscle, you are dead within 6 months to 2 years, I learned that one in my first year of my apprenticeship,

All the old Blacksmiths worked fully up untill the day they retired, Dead very shortly after retiring,
I was told to work my way down five years before retiring if I wanted to live to an old age,
Get rid of the bulk muscle, Sonny,

164 Kgs over my head and I could do any thing with it, Twist it, push it up and down, throw it, 350 Lbs, Picked it up in my arms and walked away with it, Easy,

400 lb anvil, I could get 4 inches off the block, and then it put me down, Hahahahaha.

And I have never lifted weights or exercised in my life, Just the job, kept me exceptionally fit,
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Old 29-09-2012, 01:23   #252
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Re - the term wannabe, I have been called far worse than that by better people than you Atoll. Just as long as you donít call me late for Dinner hey? I know a lot of folks get off on bigging themselves up by putting others down, but personally its not my way.


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SoulJah; Best wishes for your operation mate and may you return to the boat as soon as.
Sense of humour???? You'd have to have one for your experiences.
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Thanks DumnMad,
I really appreciate your good wishes. Six months after I bought the daydream my late father gave me a book about boatbuilding. I just thought I'd share what he wrote in the front cover - It's six months old, his thoughts are bold he's raring to get going.
God guide his hands 'till he understands the frustration and the bruising, required of you before you're through to enjoy a life of cruising.
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[QUOTE=rebel heart;1046941]A lot of you guys, in fact all of you guys, need to lift weights and do strength training.
The lack of fitness and preventable injuries screws up more sailing plans than boat problems. Strength training is not something for "other" people. It's for you.

+1. Does lifting the bottle of rum several times each evening count though?
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