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Old 11-07-2014, 16:08   #76
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oh how the wheel of fate hath turneth..........................
Indeed...the fickle finger of fate strikes again.
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Yep! But at least RH was scuttled...
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Yep! But at least RH was scuttled...
The US military forced Eric to scuttle RH. Zen did not have that option. The Zen's did not have the luxury of being saved by any US SAR. They were rescued by a cargo ship.

Zen blamed the Tao.

Eric blames the sat phone.

Zen did not try to sue the Tao, instead, they quietly went on with their lives. No book, no TV interviews, no lawsuits.
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The US military forced Eric to scuttle RH.

Really?
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Afloat or ashore - everyone thinks they will do better than the other guy. Reality tends to play out differently.

The wise tend to keep criticisms of others to self and keep public comments to the useful.....

.....if for no other reason than the sea gods are always listening. And have a SOH
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This thread has gone from zen to karma...

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I guess I'm shaking my head and giving my non-approving-finger-wave because of the amount of vessels that are ending up in harm's way in large part due to completely non-seamanship behavior.

Reading that guy's outlook and comprehension of events had me slack jawed. .
When I read this stuff today, honestly..... I'm disgusted by the Rebel hearts treatment of other unfortunates. Poop can happen to anyone. But for this guy to be dishing out this kind of unkind, mean-spirited criticism??? Really.
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Re: what a mess: zenamaran

In fairness to RH, I'm sure anyone can go bck to my thousands of blog posts while we were cruising plus many of my smart ass chat room post comments and make me look like a horrible guy. Maybe that's a good lesson to never make smart ass or controversial posts 1/2 intended in fun and gest, but heck what fun would that be?

I've mentioned this before but there IS A DIFFERENCE between a Blog and Chat room persona and the real thing, I don't care what people want to say and think, keeping a popular blog going is work, it's entertainment, and not a true representation of who people are. The good blogs out there do this in a way that the reader (just like in a good movie) blurrs the reality between real life and the persona they have come to love and know on the blog. It's not lying, it's not being dishonest, it's looking at the blog like WORK, which is what it REALLY is to do 3-4 blog posts a week and keep them interesting to keep the attention of thousands of readers.

Eric had a persona, an act, a stick on the blog and in the chat room and it made him and his blog popular and people loved him here on CF and couldn't get enough of his opinnions and observations. Sure it looks bad NOW with what happened, but if they were now in the South Pacific being the average Joe Hero Cruisers that made it, everyone would be singing their praises and heaping them with praise. It turned out bad sure, but the Eric we all knew from the blog was NEVER the real Eric to start with....no one ever is once a blog goes from personal to becomming a source of income.

There are threads after threads of how to make money while cruising and bingo....Eric figured it out with his blog and other work (what ever it was) and the irony now is that the thing that "made them" is now tearing them down. Once again the bright lights of media fame have burned another star who has fallen to earth.
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I'm sure anyone can go bck to my thousands of blog posts while we were cruising plus many of my smart ass chat room post comments and make me look like a horrible guy.
Heck Rich, I've been reading your posts for years. I bet I won't have to go back further than a day to do that!

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When does the movie come out? Rebel Heart the story of the self-righteous fingerpointing adventurers who snubbed their noses at the poorly coordinated only to prove completely inept. Rescued at great societal expense so they could move on to sue those truly responsible for their ill-fated voyage.

I'll pitch in one Dollah to purchase a 6ft tall unbreakable carnival mirror which blurs the blemishes so they can forever more enjoy their untarnished self-images.
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Afloat or ashore - everyone thinks they will do better than the other guy. Reality tends to play out differently.



The wise tend to keep criticisms of others to self and keep public comments to the useful.....



.....if for no other reason than the sea gods are always listening. And have a SOH

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Re: what a mess: zenamaran

Sorry guys, had to delete a post, so a couple of responses then made no sense and have had to delete them.

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When I read this stuff today, honestly..... I'm disgusted by the Rebel hearts treatment of other unfortunates. Poop can happen to anyone. But for this guy to be dishing out this kind of unkind, mean-spirited criticism??? Really.
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[QUOTE=SVNeko;1583053]This thread has gone from zen to karma...
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I think RH ran into some bad JuJu out there. They're kinda young to build up a boat's worth of bad karma. I'm thinking JuJu happens like that other stuff only way worse. I haven't ever followed a blog but I'm amused that they're even more popular now. Heh. And a lawsuit? Of course. It's the American way. I've been wrong before about frivolous lawsuits but this sure looks like one to me.


As some noted, it could have been heroic but it wasn't. I fail to see why it's still newsworthy.
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I fail to see why it's still newsworthy.
It isn't.

Folks, discussing sailing accidents and incidents so that we may learn from them is useful. This has been well thrashed out over the last 3 months. Threads on Eric and Charlotte have now deteriorated into nasty personal attacks and speculation.

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