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Old 03-06-2014, 18:24   #151
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... What's the payoff for you, sir, day after frickin day?
This is not a rhetorical question sir.

I am over and out before the mods have to jump in. I'm not bothering with your PM either Don. Adios amigo.
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Old 03-06-2014, 19:34   #152
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Bare boat charteres are a source of amusement here in the Whitesundays. If it's going to go wrong you will hear it on the morning sched's. Back in the 80s I did charter due to time an distance restrictions. Made me apresiate owning my own boat later. Don't dis the charters they are tomorrow's Cruisers.

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I wish I had the coin to cruise full time(which we are) plus take sailing holidays all over the world chartering some hot multihulls here and there.
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Barefoot charterers like all other boaters may be experienced or not. If they lack experience and training they shouldn't be allowed out without someone who is. Meanwhile there are many who go buy boats and set out using them with no knowledge of what they're doing.
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Old 04-06-2014, 03:35   #156
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Barefoot charterers like all other boaters may be experienced or not. If they lack experience and training they shouldn't be allowed out without someone who is. Meanwhile there are many who go buy boats and set out using them with no knowledge of what they're doing.
Boy, you got that right!

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While off the topic of the original post, for what it's worth, the only time I've ever been in a collision situation with another boat, it was the fault of a cruiser. We (bareboat charterers) were moored in a very windy anchorage eating breakfast, he was in a 50+' ketch anchored behind us. He had pulled up to leave, gotten his anchor on board while his wife was at the helm, but failed to maintain enough forward speed against the wind to maintain steerage. Of course the wind caught his bow and turned him into us. His bow would have scraped 20' of our starboard if I hadn't leapt up, caught him, and walked him down. Meanwhile, he sat in the bow alternately crying and screaming at his wife over their VHF headsets. End of a cruising dream?
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Meanwhile there are many who go buy boats and set out using them with no knowledge of what they're doing.
Yes, in fact I would say that sometimes that is how to gain experience, by doing.
See I fit your remark, and hope in a couple of years to have gained enough experience to begin cruising. There are many ways to learn to do something, not all of them can be purchased.
However, I won't be that dumbass in the video sailing into a crowded anchorage
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Tired of unfriendly hostile people? Go where others don't. We love it in Northern BC, or along this coast. Only people that stick around are friendly and willing to help one another. When the population drops, the friendlies come out.
As for the rude Americans, I got so tired of them in Florida. I think it has a lot to do with being drunk on your boat. My apologies to the rest of the world that has to put up with them. There are some sincerely nice Americans. Just have to go where a drunk person doesn't survive the swells I guess...
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..................... As for the rude Americans, I got so tired of them in Florida. I think it has a lot to do with being drunk on your boat. My apologies to the rest of the world that has to put up with them. There are some sincerely nice Americans. Just have to go where a drunk person doesn't survive the swells I guess...
Oh, that stings! Since I've been a Florida cruiser since growing up in Ft. Lauderdale in the 1950's this hits hard; however, I suspect that these "rude" people are from a wide area and are found concentrated in tourist areas and behaving poorly on their holiday. I've made my home port on the Saint Johns River south of Jacksonville for many years and left that area of my childhood. During the tourist season from Palm Beach to Miami you are not likely to encounter many native Floridians on boats, sober or not! Thanks for the comment that there are some nice Americans, but it's never a good practice to malign a large group with a broad slur.
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I met some really friendly girls in Cortez, FL, back in the 80s.
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Oh, that stings! Since I've been a Florida cruiser since growing up in Ft. Lauderdale in the 1950's this hits hard;

but it's never a good practice to malign a large group with a broad slur.
As a Florida resident I have a problem with it too. Wonder why, if South Florida is so horrible, so many people want to move here and then far more choose to vacation here. Must not be that awful. Visitors from all over the world seem to say it isn't.

Now I'm defending South Florida specifically, but making broad statements about people anywhere is not a good practice. I've found people to be great everywhere I've ever been. Wonder why? Maybe that I try to be gracious, show them respect, thank them when they help me?

As to drunks mentioned, well, I don't like them anywhere, but mostly I do manage to stay away from them. I don't go to bars. And if they're in the marina, I keep my distance.
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Tired of unfriendly hostile people? Go where others don't. We love it in Northern BC, or along this coast. Only people that stick around are friendly and willing to help one another. When the population drops, the friendlies come out.
As for the rude Americans, I got so tired of them in Florida. I think it has a lot to do with being drunk on your boat. My apologies to the rest of the world that has to put up with them. There are some sincerely nice Americans. Just have to go where a drunk person doesn't survive the swells I guess...
I very much like a good drink, and a good smoke
I'm trying not to be rude even with Americans from the north (west)
or from the south (east)
We all have to live our own life. Ignoring judgmental people and
all the "do gooders" helps a bunch (no ignore list necessary)

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[QUOTE=s/v Beth;1559171] When the population drops, the friendlies come out.


That is a correct statement. Crowd behavour usually drops to the lowest common denominator and the yahoos take control. In Hitler Germany, I am sure there were groups of people who kept their morality the same as friendly groups in Florida. Geography hinders you from finding them.

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And for the OP (boatman##),
not a lot to say, but I like change (most of the time)
That makes me feel wise and knowledgeable despite my
young age and in the same time it makes me feel old
And all this babel after some smokes and some drinks only to say
nothing about change
I got to stop this sh#t.

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