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Old 12-12-2012, 17:12   #61
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We are owed naught, not life, not liberty, not food, not happiness, nor sadness.
We have what we gain, we lose what we must, and in the journey we try to impart our hard won lessons to those who come after us.
All who forget these simple truths are doomed to bickering and jealousy, we are the masters of our own universe.
Some will rise and some will fall, but all will arrive at the appointed place and time in heavens own scheme regardless of preparation and riches.
Tis the fat man thru the eye of the needle once more.
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Emerson?
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Hahahaha,,,no.... just little old me!!


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Actually, Jesus. “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.” (Mk. 10:25)
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Darwin cannot be circumvented. It is better for Darwin to work with the few than to take on a whole population.
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Cees, I think you should be brushing up on your reading skills. Because you clearly are not getting my message. Like I said, I admire people that go out there and everyone is free to do so. But I take exception to people that in the course of doing that cause others to risk life and limb when this could have been avoided. Example: people that are not good enough mountaineers that pay expert guides to try and tackle Everest, and in the cause of events cause the guides to risk life (and sometimes losing their life) to save them. They should not have been up there, or if they must, they should not have been relying on others to help them - let nature take its course.

Read Into Thin Air, perhaps you will catch my drift.

Same for boats - if you want to cross the ocean on an inflatable bed, fine with me. But don't set off the EPRIB expecting a helicopter when it all goes wrong. Then you have no business being there. Everyone has a duty to take precautionary measures that prevent things going wrong within reason, before asking others to bail them out.

We are supposed to be all responsible for our own actions and decisions, Cees. So deal with the consequences! Welcome to Earth.

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Sorry , it is a tenant of a free and fair society , that we allow individuals to undertake potentially life threatening leisure activity AND we bail them out if tey get in trouble. It's what society wants, this applies to pulling drivers from speeding cars, rescuing Sunday walkers from hilltops and includes unprepared sailors at sea. I for one would have no other way. I do not want a dog eat dog society.

So many activities would be curtailed, if you adopted your view, should fishermen fish the bearing sea in winter and regularly require rescue. Yet they are only lining their own pockets, sure let them die.

Soon your rounding them up for the ghettos, for their own protection of course don't you understand.

We attempt to create societies that strive to extend as much personal freedom as possible , yet provide appropriate safety nets where needed. It's not the law of the jungle. We allow, the disadvantaged, the infirm, the mentally and physically challenged to partake in activities that they could not do unassisted. We are allowed to be a bit irresponsible, its a ,all of a good society. We tolerate diversity.

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" Shackelton's plans included eating dog biscuits and the dogs if necessary. "

then perhaps you may remember that Amundsens plans included eating his dogs AND HE DID!
Correct Shackelton was the last of the pre war " amateur" British ( well actually he was Irish ) adventurers, rather like the OPs story. They scorned local knowledge or expert training and he and Scott paid for it. Amundsen on the other hand spent years training in the cold with the locals. He was the real expect and it showed and showed utterly convincingly.

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Sorry , it is a tenant of a free and fair society , that we allow individuals to undertake potentially life threatening leisure activity AND we bail them out if tey get in trouble. It's what society wants, this applies to pulling drivers from speeding cars, rescuing Sunday walkers from hilltops and includes unprepared sailors at sea. I for one would have no other way. I do not want a dog eat dog society.

So many activities would be curtailed, if you adopted your view, should fishermen fish the bearing sea in winter and regularly require rescue. Yet they are only lining their own pockets, sure let them die.

Soon your rounding them up for the ghettos, for their own protection of course don't you understand.

We attempt to create societies that strive to extend as much personal freedom as possible , yet provide appropriate safety nets where needed. It's not the law of the jungle. We allow, the disadvantaged, the infirm, the mentally and physically challenged to partake in activities that they could not do unassisted. We are allowed to be a bit irresponsible, its a ,all of a good society. We tolerate diversity.

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It's ok Kenomac

You will never understand People who choose to be responsible for others, even so, we wont deny you assistance when you need it.


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No assistance necessary. I'm not out doing stupid stuff.

But thanks anyway.
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No assistance necessary. I'm not out doing stupid stuff.

But thanks anyway.
Who said it had to be "stupid stuff"?
Excrement does indeed occur, what then?

Some of you people really scare me.
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Oh ya, I almost forgot..... WTF over
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No assistance necessary. I'm not out doing stupid stuff.

But thanks anyway.
Famous last words!

I was not going to get into this but will note that bad things happen to the best prepared, and good things happen to the worst prepared.

DFL I call it. Dumb F@#king Luck, it happens to all of us. Sometimes it is good luck sometimes bad, but it does happen.

Just me 2 cents

Now back to laughing at silly things people do lol
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Famous last words!

I was not going to get into this but will note that bad things happen to the best prepared, and good things happen to the worst prepared.

DFL I call it. Dumb F@#king Luck, it happens to all of us. Sometimes it is good luck sometimes bad, but it does happen.

Just me 2 cents

Now back to laughing at silly things people do lol

I agree. My point was actually missed.... I should have said that I don't do stupid stuff on purpose, and then expect others to bail me out.

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