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Old 03-07-2015, 08:58   #1
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The Nomad has a coranary

I have been very quiet of late concerning the sale of my boat, Nomad. There is a reason and I have had to review my priorities because of it.

While on my way from Thunderbolt, GA to Beaufort, SC, the Nomad developed coranary problems culminating in complete coranary arrest (The engine siezed). I was towed to Beaufort (Thanks BoatsUS) and had a engine mech inspect the damage. Long story short, and another tow to Hilton Head (Again, Thanks BoatsUS) and a new engine is being installed by Marine Tech.

For this reason I have removed the Nomad from the for sale list for now, unless someone wants to pay full asking price ($45,000). I will have to remain on the Nomad for at least two more years, untill my coffers refill. I do love this boat and with the new engine I feel I will love it more, but I would like more room so my SO will feel more at home.
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Old 03-07-2015, 09:02   #2
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Re: The Nomad has a coranary

Sorry to hear about your engine and the delay it caused to your plans. But at least you have a beautiful boat with a new engine in the meantime. I love your optimistic attitude. Life is good!


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I was wondering what was going on with it. That sucks, sorry!

How many hours were on the old engine? What'd it die of?
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ouch. rest well and recuperate--that is a pricey repair.
be well yourself and keep in touch.
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The engine seized because of complete oil depletion. Don't know at this point how or why. I knew it was depleting when I got to Thunderbolt and had a mechanic "fix" it, and tell me all was fine. Guess what.

Yes it is a costly repair. Big hit to my emergency fund. But I will know the new engine will be taken care of by me alone and I will know the maintenance is complete and up to date. (old engine time >26000 hrs)
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Hi Don,

I am always curious about the cost of an engine replacement. Would you please post some info on the brand/type (and HP) and cost to replace, estimated hours needed, etc?

Thanks if you do.
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Hi Don,

I am always curious about the cost of an engine replacement. Would you please post some info on the brand/type (and HP) and cost to replace, estimated hours needed, etc?

Thanks if you do.
If you need to ask you can't afford it. I had to ask so you know the answer. but 70 hrs of labor were quoted.
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Sorry about your troubles Don. Glad it was the engine with the coronary, and not you (I was worried when I read the title).

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(old engine time >26000 hrs)
Wow, that's a lot of hours!

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If you need to ask you can't afford it. I had to ask so you know the answer. but 70 hrs of labor were quoted.
70 hours? Double ouch! If I do the math at typical boat yard rates I feel like I'm having a coronary. Then add engine, miscellaneous parts and so on.

So what brand/model replacement did you go with? Beta Marine perhaps since they're just next door in NC.
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The engine seized because of complete oil depletion. Don't know at this point how or why. I knew it was depleting when I got to Thunderbolt and had a mechanic "fix" it, and tell me all was fine. Guess what.

Yes it is a costly repair. Big hit to my emergency fund. But I will know the new engine will be taken care of by me alone and I will know the maintenance is complete and up to date. (old engine time >26000 hrs)

Don, if you're losing oil and its not in the bilge, an oil cooler might be the culprit. Check your exhaust for signs of oil. Guess how I know!


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Don, if you're losing oil and its not in the bilge, an oil cooler might be the culprit. Check your exhaust for signs of oil. Guess how I know!


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Too late for that. Engine is gone.
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If you need to ask you can't afford it. I had to ask so you know the answer. but 70 hrs of labor were quoted.
Yep..I can't afford it.

But, I do want to know (ballpark) what it costs (total cost) that would include:

1. Engine (new?)
2. Take out Old engine (labor)
3. Install replacement engine (labor)
4. Total $$ for other needed parts to make the new engine work (hoses etc.)

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Ballpark?

I don't know the cost of those engines or the mechanics (especially if they do it at listed yard rates or at some discount due to the type of work/project).

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On a good note, it sounds like your previous engine had a good LONG life.
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Re: The Nomad has a coranary

Steady,

That might not be all of it.

I looked at replacing an old Volvo MD7. Above what you noted the old engine was left handed so replace prop. Exhaust on wrong side, so redo that. New controls.

When the PO had the engine replace on our big boat they f'ed up the exhaust in general and in particular they installed the muffler under the shaft and over the bilge pump. Just to redo the exhaust and make it work OK with a serviceable bilge pump cost $5,000.
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Re: The Nomad has a coranary

Yes, 70 hours is a good quote. I've pulled and replaced a number of engines over the years, including my own, about nine years ago. It involves disconnecting a bunch of wires, hoses and control cables. Then, you have to get the existing engine out of a small space, hopefully without needing the services of a boatyard crane. I'm lucky, I was able to use the main halyard for all of the ones I did, though it took some artistic license at times. Then, with the engine out, you need to clean and paint and do all the stuff (like insulation, exhaust modification, engine bed modification, replacing engine mounts, upgrading old ventilation fans, improving lighting, and so much more) that suddenly cries out for attention every few years. Then, you have to make sure, before you actually install the engine, that the shaft is going to line up, that the new (larger and beefier) alternator is going to fit and be aligned before you actually try to work on stuff in a cramped engine space, that you can actually touch and inspect and maintain all of those parts (primary fuel filter, oil filter, coolant drain plugs, control cable connections, belts, raw water impellers, etc.) that live in awkward places. And god help you should you be trying to do this while working on your side, with your ribs balanced of some frame, trying to see in the dark while keeping the screwdriver in the slot of some hose clamp that can't fit a socket wrench.

Yeah, 70 hours isn't a bad number unless you are paying for it or doing it for yourself and actually doing the bleeding and knuckle banging.
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