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07-10-2014, 08:19
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The Future of Cruising Post-Outbreak
As the current world health crisis in Western Africa continues evolve and broaden in scope, I wonder what the future of cruising may look like down the road?
One thought that has occurred to me is, who wants to spend a month quarantined after having just crossed an ocean to get to a new cruising ground? Or for that matter, how about spending that same amount of time quarantined while island hoping, say for example in the Caribbean?
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07-10-2014, 08:24
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Re: The Future of Cruising Post-Outbreak
I'm not sure why arriving by boat would require being quarantined, while arriving by airplane or auto or train would not. In fact, I would suspect it would be easier to determine if passengers are infected if they had spent several days/weeks between countries instead of several hours.
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07-10-2014, 08:26
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Re: The Future of Cruising Post-Outbreak
If Ebola spreads, you can bet we'll be spending more or all of our time out cruising and away from people and crowds.
We have a plan, so should everyone. Head north.
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07-10-2014, 08:31
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Re: The Future of Cruising Post-Outbreak
With the lax mindedness this country has about taking precautions of the spread of ebola through the airports, I can see this thing entering the US soon. I keep hearing how difficult it is to contract it, yet almost 8000 infected and 3500 dead.
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07-10-2014, 08:38
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Re: The Future of Cruising Post-Outbreak
Actually in the (northern) western world - an Ebola epidemic is unlikely. Ebola is not an airborne virus. You have to have contact with body fluids. Virtually western countries have the medical capacity to isolate any instances (yes I know spain has just cocked this up).
If it gets loose in the middle east - it will annilhilate the populations. Virtually all medical capacity that is still standing is being used for treating victims of the wars.
Best advice? Don't sail on Africa (except S. africa), don't sail on the middle east
Have a plan like Kenomac - sail North
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07-10-2014, 08:40
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Re: The Future of Cruising Post-Outbreak
I guess maybe a sub-question would be do people think this outbreak is going to get wrapped up nice and tidy, or whether people are concerned it will become a pernicious and persistent problem through our lifetime?
When I asked the question in the OP I was imagining a future in which travel restrictions, which are currently not in place, exist.
I don't know if I was responsible for protecting the population of an island nation that I would just take a cruiser's word for it that they just crossed an ocean, zarpe or not. Of course you can pass between many nations on a cruising boat in less than a day. Many more do so than actually cross oceans.
Also, interesting article in the LA Times with regards to transmission, might want to read it.
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...ry.html#page=1
Of course there is the nurse in Spain and her husband who are now hospitalized.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ted-virus.html
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07-10-2014, 08:42
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Re: The Future of Cruising Post-Outbreak
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Originally Posted by Celestialsailor
With the lax mindedness this country has about taking precautions of the spread of ebola through the airports, I can see this thing entering the US soon. I keep hearing how difficult it is to contract it, yet almost 8000 infected and 3500 dead.
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You do realize that it has entered the US don't you? Eric Duncan in TX brought it from liberia- they are now "observing" the people he came into contact with. As of yet I don't believe anyone else has it.
If it can only be passed by "bodily fluids" just like aids- why does the CDC wear hazmat suits when going around them? Why are they in isolation? It is now also in Spain incase anyone was wondering where else it's spread to.
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07-10-2014, 08:53
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Re: The Future of Cruising Post-Outbreak
It seems like CSN&Y have an old tune about this. Head north? Maybe. Let us hope it doesn't go airborne. It looks like Africa is getting to be more of a mess. Soon USA will have troops exposed. One can only hope that with normal restrictions on treatment being relaxed by the emergency that a vaccine will be found and produced in quantity.
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07-10-2014, 09:07
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Re: The Future of Cruising Post-Outbreak
I can't even begin to imagine rendering assistance in this situation.
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07-10-2014, 09:53
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Re: The Future of Cruising Post-Outbreak
Delancey, while travel restrictions from certain countries may occur over time, it is highly unlikely that these restrictions would apply to all countries at all times. The economic impact upon business/trade as well as tourism make it a virtual impossibility. Places like the caribbean could not survive as tourism would come to an end if all travellers were forced into quarantine upon arrival.
Brad
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07-10-2014, 10:09
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Re: The Future of Cruising Post-Outbreak
How is life with out tourism? I think a lot of countries are about to find out.
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07-10-2014, 10:29
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Re: The Future of Cruising Post-Outbreak
as each of us needs to concern selves about any and all microbial attacks, what is the difference from ebola or influenza.
both require use of handwashing techniques, each is a morphing virus, each kills.... just keep being un-panicked and continue living. what is the big deal....
oh yes, and dont eat poop.
why get caught up inthe sensationalism of this.
the sky is falling.. where is chicken little....
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07-10-2014, 10:51
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Re: The Future of Cruising Post-Outbreak
I would suggest you stop falling for all of the media hype, and that is what 99% of it is, tune out the news and go cruising. You will find much more to worry about than quarantines from Ebola. Chuck
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07-10-2014, 10:57
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Re: The Future of Cruising Post-Outbreak
newt, do I have it correctly that you are a physician?
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07-10-2014, 10:59
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Re: The Future of Cruising Post-Outbreak
Quote:
Originally Posted by zeehag
what is the difference from ebola or influenza
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Influenza is far more contagious. If one wanted to worry about this sort of thing, worry about a killer influenza (bird flu, etc) instead of ebola.
5% of the world population was lost to the 1918 influenza outbreak - and they didn't have air travel then.
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