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Old 21-08-2016, 14:07   #46
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I eat everything except supplements
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What about yoga? My wife and I were thinking about getting into yoga, and I thought it would be good thing for when our sailing adventure begins.
Last night I suggested we start by doing the downward dog thing. She wasn't having any of my nonsense though......................
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Re passages 3 weeks or more...

Yes fruit & veg don't last that long (waiting with baited breath for 46 zealots to say the keep lettuce for 6 years fresh).
But it doesn't matter because the worlds longest NORMAL passages (waiting again for zealots...) is 30 days aprox.
So between the time your green stuff runs out and port is only gunna be max 2 weeks. You can eat *anything* for 2 weeks and still come up roses.

So yes take can/tins whatever you call them.

Whilst in port its different. Buy what you want.

After answering a question asking is water is available in the Caribbean, let me just mention this: in my 8 years cruising EVERY port, I mean EVERY PORT you can make landfall has had copious supplies of
Meat
Fruit
Vegetables
Water
Toilet paper
Chocolate
Ice cream
Toothpaste
Pharmacies/Doctors
even specialist vitamin shops
Diesel and petrol
Propane gas
Inflatable women



That's every port you will make landfall.
Thanks MarkJ. Oh. What about inflatable men in every port?

Just kidding. Inflatable or non inflatable models, who needs em. Mind you the non inflatable men are good for heavy lifting and fetching beer.
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What about yoga? My wife and I were thinking about getting into yoga, and I thought it would be good thing for when our sailing adventure begins.
Last night I suggested we start by doing the downward dog thing. She wasn't having any of my nonsense though......................
Up until 5 years ago before I became ill, I used to do ballet training 3 hour a day 4 days a week. I was a size 0 to 1 back then. It's amazing how much calorie burning exercise you can get from just barr work. I still have a portable ballet bar that could fit nicely on the cat. Nothing like having an exercise regime involving something you love. Back to the barr I think.
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What about yoga? My wife and I were thinking about getting into yoga, and I thought it would be good thing for when our sailing adventure begins.
Last night I suggested we start by doing the downward dog thing. She wasn't having any of my nonsense though......................
Solar Impulse pilots used yoga/meditation relaxation methods. So it MUST work when properly applied.

I have never tried (except for one exercise that is supposed to decompress my lumbars and which seems to work - I feel less pain for a time after the exercise).

The other thing you mentioned I am not sure. I will ask my partner tonight see what happens ;-)

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a)

One poster mentioned that in the most part, sailing is sedentary. I've been looking at some small sized and foldable exercise machines/aids to have on board the cat. Apart from anything else, during long passages hitting a foldable exercise bike for an hour or two could help breaking the monotony of the journey.

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What do sailors do when say doing a cross Atlantic sail about fresh fruits and vegetables. I would think by the 3rd week these things won't be fresh.
a) I think, if you can have any exercise machine onboard (a static bike, a rowing bench, etc. THIS WILL BE GREAT. This may work on any cat and on a big mono too. Personally, I would get something that gives exercise to your leg muscles up first. A rowing bench is nice as it does not topple. Tie the bike down well when not biking it though.

b) Fruit ;-( and vegeatble ;-) - "it all depends". E.g.

> potato and other tubers, onions, garlic, cabbage and celery (root) and pumpkins easily stand a 3 week trip (and a longer one too),
> soft vegs simply refuse to co-op, still, try,
> fruits ... hard ones may easily last three weeks: apples, half-baked citrus, etc.
> soft ones (papaya, avocado, etc.) will last days, a week at best. Etc.

There ARE countless tricks: e.g.
> eating always the outer leaves of the cabbage (rather than cutting it in half ...),
> keeping stuff in dark, dry and well ventilated containers and removing the 'bad apples' daily,
> keeping stuff in a cooler, etc. etc. etc.

There is a HUGE difference in how the fresh produce keeps vs. how a supermarket produce (cooled) keeps. While a fresh pineaple may keep fine for over two weeks, a cooled one will deteriorate in two maybe three days. In many places though (e.g. Canary Islands, NZ, Australia) you can no longer buy fresh produce.

Beyond any doubt, fresh food-wise, your first long passage will be a carnage - you are too sick to eat the stuff early on and you have nothing green to crunch once the body gets well and craves for a carrot. Then you develop your own repertoire of foods/techniques and with every passage you are going to provision smarter and your green stuff will last longer.

Per aspera ad astra ;-)

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Re: Supplements, health foods and exercise strategies for cruisers

regular sex for your cardio / you can survive on water, rice and freeze dried peas / moringa powder contains all things that are in green vegetables and lasts pretty well indefinitely if stored in a dry container / recipe: survival yellow rice - 1 cup rice, 2 cups water, half tsp moringa powder, 1/4tsp turmeric, 1/4tsp garlic granules, pinch black pepper, drizzle of olive oil - stir occasionally til all water is absorbed, let steam for a while while cooling to eating temperature / get in quick if every one is hungry as it is very Moorish but also keeps you warm, good energy food / can be made into rice cakes or eaten cold
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a) I think, if you can have any exercise machine onboard (a static bike, a rowing bench, etc. THIS WILL BE GREAT. This may work on any cat and on a big mono too. Personally, I would get something that gives exercise to your leg muscles up first. A rowing bench is nice as it does not topple. Tie the bike down well when not biking it though.

b) Fruit ;-( and vegeatble ;-) - "it all depends". E.g.

> potato and other tubers, onions, garlic, cabbage and celery (root) and pumpkins easily stand a 3 week trip (and a longer one too),
> soft vegs simply refuse to co-op, still, try,
> fruits ... hard ones may easily last three weeks: apples, half-baked citrus, etc.
> soft ones (papaya, avocado, etc.) will last days, a week at best. Etc.

There ARE countless tricks: e.g.
> eating always the outer leaves of the cabbage (rather than cutting it in half ...),
> keeping stuff in dark, dry and well ventilated containers and removing the 'bad apples' daily,
> keeping stuff in a cooler, etc. etc. etc.

There is a HUGE difference in how the fresh produce keeps vs. how a supermarket produce (cooled) keeps. While a fresh pineaple may keep fine for over two weeks, a cooled one will deteriorate in two maybe three days. In many places though (e.g. Canary Islands, NZ, Australia) you can no longer buy fresh produce.

Beyond any doubt, fresh food-wise, your first long passage will be a carnage - you are too sick to eat the stuff early on and you have nothing green to crunch once the body gets well and craves for a carrot. Then you develop your own repertoire of foods/techniques and with every passage you are going to provision smarter and your green stuff will last longer.

Per aspera ad astra ;-)

Cheers,
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Great advise. Thank you.
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Are there any side effects in using astaxathin? Does it help in non fair skinned from sunburn? Has it affected your pigmentation? Do you get blood tests particularly looking at your liver and kidney function? Or is this medicine completely non toxic?

Thanks for sharing.
Not a medicine.

http://www.nutrex-hawaii.com/bioastin-hawaiian-astaxanthin-12mg-50-gelcaps
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Anyone got thoughts on supplimenting watermaker water with minerals? I hear its too pure.
You didn't hear wrong.

My career in water treatment has seen a lot of changes in equipment needed to produce potable water. The company I started with once had a major issue because the water our system was producing for a city in Florida was making water too pure for human consumption. That was years ago. It is pretty much SOP that a municipal system will include REmineralization following the RO.

As far as what supplement to handle that, I dunno. But I simply have not done that homework. I didn't see any other responses, but maybe I missed one.

As far as distilled water goes, despite what some people believe, it is not pure h2o. You can read the purity in parts per million, parts per billion, or parts per trillion and still not cover all that is in the water.

The water that our bodies require will plug up a power plant with it's impurities withinh a few hours. The water that feeds a power plant is too impure for a micro electronics plant. They would halt production in minuets.
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You didn't hear wrong.

My career in water treatment has seen a lot of changes in equipment needed to produce potable water. The company I started with once had a major issue because the water our system was producing for a city in Florida was making water too pure for human consumption. That was years ago. It is pretty much SOP that a municipal system will include REmineralization following the RO.

As far as what supplement to handle that, I dunno. But I simply have not done that homework. I didn't see any other responses, but maybe I missed one.

As far as distilled water goes, despite what some people believe, it is not pure h2o. You can read the purity in parts per million, parts per billion, or parts per trillion and still not cover all that is in the water.

The water that our bodies require will plug up a power plant with it's impurities withinh a few hours. The water that feeds a power plant is too impure for a micro electronics plant. They would halt production in minuets.
So if I spent extended time living off watermaker water than if I didn't no the mineral content it would make sense to take mineral supplements. Zinc and magnesium are two important ones that come to mind. On the other hand I could just store a lot of beer, drink beer evertday and sail with a smile. But then I will have to also do serious exercise everyday to burn off the extra cals.
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There is no magic bullet.
+1 Agreed

Millions, if not billions, made each year by diet fad companies selling to folks looking for the "magic bullet" so they can pop a pill then continue with their sedentary life and poor eating habits while they wait for the lbs to fall off..
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While this generalization may have some truth behind it, judging all people and their situations by such a generalization doesn't make the judgement accurate.
I choose what supplements carefully and with consideration for what issue I may have at the time. Pounds falling off is not one of those considerations. But thank for letting me know how you judge me.
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I keep my 2 fridges onboard regularly OFF.

It helps at eating better, fresh, natural. I buy NO plastic/cold/canned produce.

My tip? Drink water with whole lemon skin + natural honey (that one your supermarket has NEVER SEEN)

Supplements? Are in vegs, herbs, dry nuts and fresh stuff

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OOPS IC fluoride toothpaste mentioned .Fluoride is a known toxin and should not be ingested although of course it is used by most but not all countries for water purification it is not a wise move.I brush my teeth with a mixture of baking soda and good old desert salt from the Kalahari.
So no commercial toothpastes for me anymore.
Oh and it is a cheaper way of keeping those whites clean.
You're not supposed to eat the stuff.
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