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Old 23-03-2015, 12:38   #31
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No they have been available in both US and Canada pretty much forever (grew up 5 miles from the boarder and spent a fair bit of time over there) but flat head and Phillips are the dominant style.

The only common place they were found is in RV's. Never heard why.

As I said, as a technology they are great but being rarely used, it means one more tool to keep on hand.
They are commonly used in woodworking (such as furniture making). They are great for power driving because the bit doesn't fall out of the straight screw slot or cam out of a Phillips slot.
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Old 23-03-2015, 12:40   #32
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I've heard that explanation before but it doesn't hold up. But there are guys with screw guns building decks, cars and many other things...but they don't use them.
There are some other common head designs for deck screws. Usually when you buy a box one bit is included.
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Old 23-03-2015, 19:59   #33
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6-pt vs 12-pt?
MY BAD!
Yes 6 point instead of 12 point. Dyslexia strikes again.
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Old 23-03-2015, 20:12   #34
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Re: SAE or Metric???

We carry both and it is always a guessing game as to which one to use.
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Old 23-03-2015, 20:32   #35
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Hmm... spend a pleasant morning going around your boat with the tools you have and try every nut and bolt you can find.

That said, both and more is better
Edit: never underestimate the power of visegrips or better yet, the newish Knipex plier wrenches; pricey but very functional.
The Kniplex are interesting, though very pricey as you note. I wonder what size(s) you have. Do you need a long grip? They say that the 300mm will handle a 44mm bolt...which suggests the grip is cammed/engineered in some way. And, of course, how do they stand up to the salt air?

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An American built boat, with an American engine - I'd guess SAE would predominate
Tricky one since a lot of marinized boat engine packages are based upon Japanese or European sourced diesels?
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My uncle had a boarder like that once, very poor personal hygiene.
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Re: SAE or Metric???

While I agree combo spanners in both imperial and metric are the go, have any of you guys used metrinch tools?

They are slightly different to normal as they grip the middle rather than the edge of the nut.

1 socket fits both metric and imperial. Also good for rounded nuts. Might be a space saver in a boat.

Just another option...
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The Kniplex are interesting, though very pricey as you note. I wonder what size(s) you have. Do you need a long grip? They say that the 300mm will handle a 44mm bolt...which suggests the grip is cammed/engineered in some way. And, of course, how do they stand up to the salt air?

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I actually don't own any but my employer has a few . Don't recall exact sizes but one would be less than 300mm and the other a bit bigger.

The main features are the jaws are always parallel, the range of adjustment is great so that the handles are always close together when torque is applied (makes gripping easy), the adjustment is easy and locks in position and the finish (plating) is high quality.

I'm not sure how well they will handle a marine environment but I suspect quite well. The plating is similar in quality/finish as say Stahlwille tools.

I understand Knipex has the design well protected so that possibily explains the high price. Won't become cheap until the patents near their expiry
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Hi all...getting everything together for maiden voyage and a new issue, tools! What is more prevalent on an Irwin 30-1977...Metric or SAE...I plan to have both, but some of the specialty wrenches and things I only have 1 set...
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Some of the 12 point style socket and wrenches are useful for attacking painted, corroded or stripped fasteners. The patents have expired so you find them for cheap. They tend to fit most metric / imperial.

Long sockets and wobbke bars also get in those hard to reach spots.

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Personally I find the ease of finding the right wrench ( spanner here ) is proportional to the amount of blood I leave behind on the fitment in question . After lots of blood I usually discover the right wrench at the bottom of the other toolbox.

No good repair can be completed without blood.


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